House Floor Session 3/5/20


>>THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER. PRAYER BY THE CHAPLAIN.>>THE JEWISH SAGES THROUGHOUT TIME. GAVE US THIS ADVICE. THERE IS MORE TO CLIMATE THEN WEATHER. THE CLIMATE OF POLITICS CREATES THE WARMTH OF REPRESENTING CONSTITUENTS AND THIS GREAT STATE OF MINNESOTA. RESPECT FOR COLLEAGUES. WHO TOGETHER REPRESENT THE DIFFERENT HUGHES AND OBSERVANCES AND EXPERIENCES OF OUR PEOPLE. THE HUMAN PEOPLE. THE CLIMATE OF POLITICS REMINDS US THAT THE RAIN THAT BRINGS NEW GROWTH OF IDEAS AND POLITICAL ENGAGEMENT. THE DEW THAT SATURATES BIPARTISAN INITIATIVES IT’S THE FROST THAT SETTLES ON THE SURFACES OF HARD WORK. COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND FLOOR SESSIONS THEY GO INTO THE WEE HOURS OF THE NIGHT. THE DRIP OF ICICLES MELTING. HARDEN THE EU POINTS AND THE HUMAN AGGRESSION THAT FIGHTS TO WIN RATHER THAN FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT. CLIMATE IS MORE THAN WHETHER IT IS THE CLIMATE OF OUR SOCIETY WE FIND OURSELVES IN THE CLIMATE OF A NEW AND SCARY VIRUS THAT SHADOW OF THE 20 20 ELECTION; THE CLIMATE OF FIGHTING HATE THE CLIMATE AT THE UNKNOWN OF THE 21TH CENTURY. THE SAME WATER THAT SOFTENS POTATOES HARDEN’S AIDS. AS WE FIND OURSELVES EXISTING IN THIS SAME CLIMATE MAY WE BE LAST HARDENED BY SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HUMBLED TO FIGHT FOR OUR VALUES AND BELIEF IT’S BY SOFTENING OUR STANCE. IN ORDER TO FIGHT IDEAS AND NOT ATTACK THE PEOPLE WITH WHOM WE DISAGREE. CLIMATE IS MORE THAN WEATHER. YOU STAND IN THESE CHAMBERS IN THIS SAME CLIMATE YOU HAVE TO FACE EACH OTHER AT THE END OF THE DAY. AND SO LET US TOGETHER FIGHT FOR A BETTER MINNESOTA. A REAL HIGH TIDE OR NOT.>>AIELLO HEY NEW MALEKO LUNCH; A HAPPY ON TO THE I KNEW HE’D BE LIVES MUNHOZ SAID.>>AT THE LESS SAID ARE YOU THE ONENESS OF THE WEEK WORLD WHO GIVES US LIFE WHO SUSTAINS US AND IT’S BROUGHT US TO THIS HISTORIC MOMENT TOGETHER.>>THE CHAPLAIN FOR TODAY AS RABBI MARCIA ZIMMERMAN FROM TEMPLE ISRAEL IN MINNEAPOLIS MINNESOTA. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PLEASE REMAIN STANDING RECITES THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE CLERK WILL TAKE THE ROLE.>>THE CLERK WILL CLOSE THE ROLE.>>A COAL MINE NUMBER HER>>A QUORUM IS PRESENT. THE CLERK WILL READ THE JOURNAL OF THE PRECEDING DAY.>>THE JOURNAL OF THE HOUSE 90 FOR SESSION 2020 70TH DAY SAINT PAUL MINNESOTA WEDNESDAY; MARCH 4TH 2020.>>IF THERE’S NO OBJECTION FOR THE READING OF THE JOURNAL BE DISPENSED WITH AND THE JOURNAL WILL BE APPROVED AS CORRECTED BY THE CHIEF CLERK HEARING NO OBJECTION THE JOURNAL IS APPROVED HAS CORRECTED BY THE CHIEF CLERK. REPORTS OF STANDING COMMITTEES AND DIVISIONS A COPY OF THIS ORDER OF BUSINESS HAS BEEN PLACED ON EACH MEMBER’S DESK. THERE’S NO OBJECTION AIRPORTS WILL BE ADOPTED HEARING NO OBJECTION THE REPORTS ARE ADOPTED.>>SECOND HOUSE FILES AND ZACHARY HOUSE ON NUMBER 1149 RATING; SO HURRY HOUSE FALL 3072; 2ND RETIRING 30 TO 29 DEGREES OCCURRING HOUSE FELL 30 TO 40. I REALLY LIKE OR A HOUSE FIRE 3274 TO A HOUSE FULL OF 3316. I REALLY LIKE HER HOUSE FELL 3557; THANK YOU TO EVERY HOUSE FALL; 3618 FACTORY WORKER A HOUSE OFF 3630 TILL THEY REALLY LIKE OR A HOUSE OFF 3687 TO OCCUR IN HOW SAW 3772. REHOUSE FALL; 3819 SECONDLY; THE GREENHOUSE OFF 3911 SECOND READING.>>THE INTRODUCTION OF BILLS THE FOLLOWING HOUSE FILES HAVE BEEN OFFERED FOR INTRODUCTION TODAY; THE CHIEF CLERK WILL REPORT THE HOUSE FILES AND GIVE THEM THEIR FIRST READING INDUCTION A FIRST.>>TREATING A HOUSE FIRE 4158 TO 4225.>>FIRST READING HOUSE FILES 4158 TO 4225.>>MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE MADAM SPEAKER; BUT ALSO PASSES BY THE SIDE OF THE FOLLOWING SENATE FILE HERE WITH TRANSMIT IT SENT A PHONE NUMBER 3564 THE MESSAGE ASSIGNED CAL ARE LUMEN SECRETARY OF THE SENATE.>>FIRST READING OF SENATE FILES.>>FIRST READING SENT A FILE NUMBER 3564 OR AN ACT RELATING TO PUBLIC SAFETY TRANSFERRING MONEY TO THE DISASTER CONTINGENCY CAO POLASKI MOVE THAT SENT A FILE NUMBER 3564 AND HOUSE PHONE NUMBER 3633 NOW ON THE GENERAL REGISTER PREFER TO THE CHIEF PARK FOR COMPARISON.>>HARRY NO OBJECTION SO ORDERED. THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY; THE FIRST BILL ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY IS HOUSE FILE NUMBER 5 THE CLERK FOR MAPS WHEN A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY; REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT STATE YOUR PARLIAMENTARY INCREASE. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER.>>ON THIS JUST A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU ABOUT HOW THE CALENDAR WAS NORMALLY. OUR PROCEDURE IN THE HOUSE HAS BEEN WITH THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY IS APPROVED BY THE RULES COMMITTEE. THIS CALENDAR. THERE WAS AN E-MAIL SENT TO RULES COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON 07:23PM. ON MARCH 2ND. NOTIFYING US WITH WHAT WOULD BE ON THE CALENDAR; THE PROPOSED CALENDAR FOR THE DAY THAT THE RULES COMMITTEE WOULD BE TAKING UP. UNFORTUNATELY MANY OF US ALREADY KNEW THAT THIS PARTICULAR BILL WAS COMING UP BECAUSE EARLIER IN THE DAY AT MINNESOTA A F L C I O TWEETED OUT THAT THIS BILL WOULD BE ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY. SO MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS THERE SOME NEW PROCEDURE WHERE WE’RE GOING TO RELEASE TO OUR MAJOR DONORS WHICH BILLS WILL BE ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY. PRIOR TO LETTING THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE; AND ALL KNOW THAT I SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE A F L C I O WAS DONATED 219;000 $500 TO THE HOUSE SINCE AND I THINK MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE DESERVE TO KNOW FIRST WHICH BILLS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY; SO MADAM SPEAKER; IF YOU COULD LET ME KNOW IF THERE’S A NEW PROCEDURE. IT’S NOT A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY.>>A REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT YOU ARE NOT RAISING A POINT OF ORDER AND HAPPY TO GO TO YOU FIRST FIRST AS SOON AS WE REPORT THE BILL AND THEN YOU CAN DIRECT YOUR INQUIRY TO THE MINORITY LATE OR TO THE MAJORITY LEADER. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE BILL.>>HOWS HOW NUMBER 5 NUMBER ONE ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY AN ACT RELATING TO EMPLOYMENT THE 4TH ENGROSSMENT.>>REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT REQUEST; THE MAJORITY LEADER TO YIELD THE MAJORITY LEADER WILLIAM ACTUALLY MADAM SPEAKER I WASN’T REQUESTING THE MAJORITY LEADER YIELD I WAS MAKING A POINT A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY TO YOU THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE AND IF THERE’S A NEW PROCEDURE IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AS IT RELATES TO HOW A RELEASE OUR CALENDAR ARE PROPOSED CALENDARS FOR THE DAY OR THE RULES COMMITTEE AGENDAS.>>REPRESENTED THAT’S NOT A PARLIAMENTARY INCREASE; EITHER IT’S A POLITICAL QUESTION; IT’S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO ASK THE MAJORITY LEADER TO YIELD I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN OUR AUTHOR GOT THE FLU. WE LET EVERYBODY KNOW AS SOON AS SHE WAS WELL THAT WE WOULD DO THE BILL. AND SO I DON’T THINK WAS A GRAND MYSTERY; BUT I CAN’T ENGAGE IN DEBATE THESE ARE NOT PARLIAMENTARY INC 3 QUESTIONS NOR ARE THEY POINTS OF ORDER. THEY ARE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE MAJORITY LEADER TO YELL THAT HE WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER; I’D LIKE TO MAJORITY LEADER DEAL.>>HE WILL YOBE REPRESENTATIVE WINKLER.>>MADAME SPEAKER I DIDN’T HEAR A QUESTION FROM REPRESENTED OUT REPRESENT DOUBT. THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER AND THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE WINKLER AS I POINTED OUT FOR THE SPEAKER AND FOR THE REST OF THE CHAMBER; I’M TYPICALLY AS IS CUSTOMARY IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE FIND OUT WHAT BILLS ARE INTENDED TO BE ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY; THE FIRST PEEK THAT WE HAVE ON THAT IS WHEN THE E-MAIL GOES OUT FOR THE PROPOSED AGENDA FOR THE RULES COMMITTEE WHERE WILL BE APPROVING THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY. THAT EMAIL WENT OUT AT 07:23PM ON MARCH 2ND. HOWEVER TWEET WENT OUT FROM A F L C I O THAT THESE BILLS WOULD BE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR; INCLUDING THIS HOUSE FILE AND THAT TWEET WENT OUT AT 04:39PM. NOW I KNOW THAT A F L C I O IS A BIG DONOR TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OVER A MILLION DOLLARS TO DEMOCRATIC IN THE LAST SINCE 2016 AND 202;005.>>100 REPRESENTATIVE WINKLER STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.>>A C SECTION 1.2 4 REPRESENTED THAT IS RAISING QUESTIONS THE MOTIVATIONS OF MEMBERS AND HE’S RAISING FURTHER QUESTIONS OF PROCEDURE IN COMMITTEE WHICH ARE NOT THE SUBJECT OF A DEBATE OR PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS ON THE HOUSE FLOOR.>>WEEKLY REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT I WILL NOT RULE AS IS THE CUSTOM AND PRACTICE OF THE HOUSE WENT UP MY ORDERS RAISED ON MOTIVES BUT I WOULD REMIND MEMBERS TO DEBATE THE SUBJECT MATTER AND NOT TO IMPUGN THE MOTIVES OF MEMBERS. REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT.>>THANK YOU MADAM AND MAYBE I CAN CUT TO THE CHASE. IT’S INCREDIBLY. YOU KNOW DISRESPECT FOR MAYBE IS A BETTER WORD FOR YOU TO NOTIFY. LABOR UNIONS WHO I KNOW ARE PUSHING YOU TO TO TO BRING THESE BILLS FORWARD BEFORE YOU LET THE MEMBERS OF THE MINNESOTA HOUSE KNOW WHAT BILLS WILL BE COMING UP FOR AND.>>I TAKE OFFENSE TO THE FACT THAT WE FIND OUT ABOUT THESE THINGS ONLINE ON TWITTER. BEFORE YOU TELL US. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE THE RESPECT OF OF JUST YOU KNOW THIS. THIS MAJORITY HAS FLIPPED FOR THE LAST 5 ELECTION CYCLES. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO REALLY WELL HERE IS TREAT EACH OTHER RESPECTFULLY WE’VE HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP THE SESSION I DO APPRECIATE THAT I DO FEEL AS THOUGH THIS WAS DISRESPECTFUL SO I WOULD APPRECIATE A REPRESENTATIVE WINKLER MADAME CHAIR IF HE WOULD YIELD AN APOLOGY TO THE CHAMBER IN JUST A COMMITMENT THAT GOING FORWARD YOU’LL NOTIFY US BEFORE YOU OUTSIDE GROUPS OF WHAT’S COMING ON THE HOUSE FLOOR.>>HE WILL YELLED REPRESENTATIVE WINKLER THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT WE PROVIDED NOTICE CONSISTENT WITH THE RULES UNDER THAT COMMITTEE AND WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE YOU NOTICE ON THE RULES COMMITTEE BEFORE WE TALK TO SOMEBODY ELSE ABOUT THAT TIME AND OR DATE ON WHICH MAKE A BILL WILL BE BROUGHT UP I WOULD FURTHER REMIND YOU THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED CONSISTENT NOTICE TO THE RULES COMMITTEE AND 2 OTHER MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT BILLS ARE COMING UP WELL IN ADVANCE OF ANYTHING THAT HAS TYPICALLY BEEN PROVIDED TO THE MINORITY IN FACT WE DISCUSS THEM WITH YOU IN WEEKLY MEETINGS IN THE SPEAKER’S OFFICE. WE DO NOT HIDE THE BALL WE DO NOT HIDE INFORMATION. THERE IS NO ADVANTAGE TO ANYONE IN PROVIDING INFORMATION TO OUTSIDE GROUPS ABOUT WHAT BILLS ARE COMING UP BEFORE THERE’S AN OFFICIAL NOTICE THE TO THE RULES COMMITTEE. AND IN FACT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. THE NOTICE WENT OUT AT THE TIME IT DID A FAMILY MEMBER WAS ILL FOR ONE OF THE STAFF AND THE TIMING WAS STILL MORE THAN ADEQUATE UNDER THE RULES OF THE OF THE COMMITTEES SO I’M SORRY THAT YOU ARE OFFENDED. BY THIS FRANKLY I THINK THAT WE HAVE DONE MORE TO PROVIDE NOTICE INFORMATION TO THE MINORITY THAN HAS BEEN DONE IN MY TIME AT THE LEGISLATURE AND I’M SORRY. I GUESS THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD TREAT YOU THAT MUCH BETTER THAN YOU TREATED US.>>REPRESENTATIVE DON’T USE SOME OF THE FLOOR. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND REPRESENTATIVE WINKLER I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY THANK YOU.>>I RECOGNIZE THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL THE MEMBER FROM DAKOTA REPRESENTATIVE HALVORSON TO EXPLAIN THE BILL.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND MEMBERS AND I WILL APOLOGIZE THE SCHEDULING CHANGE ON THIS BILL EVERYBODY WAS HERE PREPARED TO DEBATE IT. A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND I GOT THE FLU THE NIGHT BEFORE WE WERE GOING TO DEBATE THAT. I HAVEN’T HAD THE FLU SINCE I WAS A KID AND DON’T RECOMMEND IT SO I DIDN’T WANT TO YOU ALL THE KIT. AND SO I STAYED TO GET BETTER. AND THAT MY KID GOT IT. SO IT’S BEEN AN EXCITING WEEK AT THE HOWEVER SON HOUSE AND IT FEELS SO APROPOS BUT TODAY I’M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHY WE NEED TIME TO CARE FOR OURSELVES AND OTHERS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. MEMBERS OF THE HOST OF A CAUCUS HAVE BEEN TRAVELING THE STATE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. TALKING TO MINNESOTANS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE FROM ALL POLITICAL PARTIES TO FIND OUT WHAT’S REALLY ON THE MINDS OF MINNESOTANS WE HEAR SO OFTEN IN OUR CAMPAIGNS AND GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND HERE AT OUR OFFICES. WHAT MINNESOTANS ARE FACING AND WE WANTED TO GO OUT TO MINNESOTANS AND AND TALK TO PEOPLE NOT WITH. PARTISAN LABELS NOT WITH GEOGRAPHIC LABELS BUT REALLY CONNECTING ABOUT WHAT MAKES US MINNESOTANS AND WHAT’S IMPORTANT TO US AS A STATE. WE LEARNED A LOT FOR MINNESOTANS WE HEARD THAT MINNESOTANS. THAT’S PROBABLY NOT A SURPRISE I HEAR A LOT OF LOVE FOR STAYED HERE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. WE ALSO HEAR THAT MINNESOTANS CARE A LOT ABOUT ONE ANOTHER AND THEY CARE A LOT THE SUCCESS AND THE SECURITY OF THEIR NEIGHBORS. BUT TO MANY MINNESOTANS DON’T HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE. TOO MANY MINNESOTANS FEEL IN SICK YOU’RE IN OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. AND WE HEARD THAT WHEN WE WENT OUT TO VISIT WITH PEOPLE TOO. DIDN’T MATTER IF YOU ARE LEFT OR RIGHT IF YOU ARE EARL OR FROM THE TWIN CITIES. FROM A SUBURB LIKE ME. THESE CONCERNS FOR MINNESOTANS WERE REAL AND CONSISTENT AND EVEN FOLKS WHO HAVE GOOD HEALTH CARE THIS IS TO ME IS ONE OF THE MOST SURPRISING THINGS WE HEARD HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE FEEL IN SECURE ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO KEEP IT AND CONTINUE TO HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE. AND A LOT OF THAT IS TIED TO THEIR WORK AND THEIR JOBS IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND THEIR LIVES ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEIR JOBS IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG IN THEIR LIVES ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP A PAYCHECK. WE ALSO KNOW THAT MINNESOTA FAMILIES ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE AND IT’S SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN THIS BODY. A LOT. WE ALSO KNOW THAT MINNESOTA FAMILIES CAN ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH CARE THAT THEY NEED AND VERY OFTEN ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO CHILDREN’S MENTAL HEALTH CARE THEY HAVE TO ACCESS HEALTHCARE OUTSIDE OF OUR STATE. ONLY TO LEARN. THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO WORK IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THEIR HEALTH CARE AND SAID TO BE WITH THEIR CHILD WHO IS HOSPITALIZED OUTSIDE OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. AND WE ALSO HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE AND THE SANDWICH GENERATION WHO ARE TOO FINDING IT REALLY HARD TO BE BE SURE THAT THEIR ELDERS ARE WELL CARED FOR WE HEAR ABOUT FINANCIAL ABUSE OF OLDER MINNESOTANS WE HEAR THE NEED FOR ALL THEIR MINNESOTANS TO HAVE TO SPEND TIME IN INSTITUTIONS AND RESPITE CARE INSTEAD OF BEING IN THEIR OWN HOME IF THEY HAVE A FALL BREAK A HIP GET YOU KNOW. MINNESOTANS ARE STRUGGLING. AND MINNESOTANS HAVE TOLD US REPEATEDLY HOW THEY’RE STRUGGLING. AND THEY’VE ASKED THE MINNESOTA LEGISLATURE TO TAKE ACTION. TO HELP RELIEVE THE STRUGGLE. TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN PROSPER. AND THAT THEY CAN ADVANCE THE WONDERFUL VALUES OF OUR STATE THAT WE CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER THAT WE LOVE OUR STATE. AND SO I’M REALLY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO BRING PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT TO THE FLOOR. WE’VE HEARD THIS. WE’VE HAD 10 Q 10. 11 COMMITTEE HEARINGS WE HAVE HAD A MANY HOURS DEBATE ON THIS WHEN IT WAS IN THE JOBS BILL LAST YEAR. BUT IT’S TO HAVE A A STAND-ALONE CONVERSATION IT IS THAT IMPORTANT. MINNESOTANS DESERVE ECONOMIC SECURITY MINNESOTANS WORK HARD MINNESOTANS WORKED MULTIPLE JOBS IN MANY CASES AND THEY DESERVE SECURITY FOR THEMSELVES AND FOR THEIR FAMILIES. SO HOUSE FILE 5 CREATES A PROGRAM OF AFFORDABLE ACCESS FOR ALL MINNESOTA EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE UP TO 12 WEEKS OF PARTIAL PUT WEIGHT REPLACEMENT IN THE CASE OF A QUALIFYING MEDICAL CONDITION. FOR 12 WEEKS OF UP UP TO 12 WEEKS TIME OFF FROM WORK. I’M PARTIAL WAGE REPLACEMENT; IF YOU NEED TO CARE FOR A LOVED ONE OR A FEW BRING A NEW BABY INTO YOUR FAMILY. THE PROGRAM IS BASED ON THE STATE’S VERY SUCCESSFUL YOU I UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE SYSTEM THAT’S BEEN IN PLACE FOR 80 YEARS. AND EMPLOYERS HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO SCALE THE PROGRAM HAS THERE NEEDS TO TO MEET THEIR NEEDS. SO AN EMPLOYER WHO CHOOSES TO PROVIDE A PRIVATE PROGRAM THROUGH PAID FAMILY LEAVE AS LONG AS IT’S CALM PROPONE PAYS OUT I’M IN THE SAME IN THE WAY CAN PROVIDE A PRIVATE PLAN AN OPT OUT OF A STATE PROGRAM. IF AN EMPLOYER HAS A SHORT TERM DISABILITY POLICY OR WANTS TO PURCHASE A IN THE PRIVATE MARKET A SHORT TERM DISABILITY POLICY THAT PAYS OUT AT THE SAME RATE OR GREATER. THEN THE STATE THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. HOWEVER; IF THEY PROVIDE HAVE THAT DON’T HAVE A FAMILY LEAVE PROGRAM IN PLACE THEY CAN OPT IN TO HALF THE PROGRAM. WHO DON’T HAVE THE ABILITY TO OFFER THIS BENEFIT ARE THE REASON THAT WE’RE HERE TALKING ABOUT IT IN LARGE PART BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SMALL AND PLAYERS IN THIS TIGHT LABOR MARKET WHO ARE TRYING REALLY HARD TO FIND A QUALIFIED SMALL TECH START-UPS WHICH MINNESOTA IS WELL KNOWN FOR WATCH POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES AND CURRENT EMPLOYEES WALK OUT THE DOOR TO A LARGE MINNESOTA EMPLOYER WHO CAN PROVIDE PAID FAMILY LEAVE. LARGE EMPLOYERS HAVE BEEN INVESTING IN PAID FAMILY LEAVE. FOR MANY MANY YEARS BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR EMPLOYEES. IT GIVES YOU A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE WHEN YOU’RE TRYING TO RETAIN EMPLOYEES THOSE FOLKS THAT YOU’VE INVESTED IN AND TRAINS. A LOT OF MINNESOTA SMALLER PLAYERS DON’T HAVE THAT ECONOMY OF SCALE AND ARE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEIR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE MEDICINES CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER. THEY VERY OFTEN WILL PAY FOR IT OUT OF THEIR OWN FAMILY’S BUDGET I’VE TALKED TO MANY EMPLOYERS HAVE DONE THAT. I HEARD MY EMPLOYER; MY EMPLOYEE WHO I LOVE AND HAS BEEN WITH US FOR YEARS HAD A BABY AND SHE NEEDED TIME OFF RECOVER FROM HAVING A BABY SHE NEEDED TIME OFF TOO CARE FOR HER BABY AND WE PAID FOR IT; BUT WE PAID FOR IT OUT OF OUR FAMILY BUDGET BECAUSE WE ARE A SMALL BUSINESS AND WE DIDN’T HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE. AND WE’VE TALKED TO EMPLOYERS WHO HAVE SAID I’VE GOT I’VE GOT SUCH DEDICATED EMPLOYEES THAT I CAN’T AFFORD TO LOSE THEM. THEY HAD A SLIP AND FALL ON THE GREAT ICE IN MINNESOTA. AND BROKE A BONE AND NEEDED TO RECOVER RECOVER FROM FROM THAT ACCIDENT AND FROM SURGERY. WE KNOW THAT MINNESOTA EMPLOYERS NEED TO BE COMPETITIVE IN THIS MARKET AND THIS PROVIDES THEM A WAY TO DO THIS. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY. WE KNOW THAT MINNESOTANS NEEDS TO FEEL ECONOMICALLY SECURE. WHEN THEY’RE AT WORK. MINNESOTANS NEED TO FEEL ECONOMICALLY SICK. YOU’RE TO BE GREAT PARENTS MINNESOTANS T TO FEEL ECONOMICALLY SECURE. TO PROSPER IN THEIR LIVES. AND THIS PROVIDES ECONOMICS IF YOUR SECURITY FOR MINNESOTA WORKERS FOR PEOPLE WHO GET UP AND GO TO WORK EVERY DAY AND WORK REAL HARD AND MIGHT HAVE A BAD RUN OF LUCK LET ME ASK IF YOU HAVE A BAD RUN OF LUCK LIKE ONE WOMAN WHO TESTIFIED AT OUR COMMITTEE WHO IS 35 YEARS OLD AND A TEACHER YOU’RE WHOSE HUSBAND WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A FATAL BRAIN TUMOR. AND SHE WANTED TO BE WITH HIM AND CARE FOR HER HUSBAND WHILE HE DIED. AND THE WITH THERE TOO. PRESCHOOL AGE CHILDREN AND HAVE THEIR FAMILY TOGETHER. WHILE HER HUSBAND DIED. SHE HAD TO GO TO WORK BECAUSE SHE COULDN’T AFFORD THAT TIME OFF THAT SHE CAN AFFORD TO LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT DO WE TELL HER ABOUT HER JUGGLING HER NEED TO BE WITH HER HUSBAND WHOS GOING TO DIE. AND SAYING YOU DON’T GET TO SAY GOODBYE THE WAY IT WE WANT TO. BECAUSE WE’RE NOT GOING TO CARE ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC SECURITY. AND WHAT DO WE SAY TO THE MOM TO THE ONE IN FOR MOMS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. WHO HAVE A BABY AND GO BACK TO WORK WITHIN 2 WEEKS OF DELIVERY. WHAT DO WE SAY TO THEM ABOUT THEIR NEED TO BE HEALTHY ABOUT THEIR ECONOMIC SECURITY ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THEIR NEWBORN BABY. ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THEMSELVES. WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY MINNESOTA HAS REALLY REALLY BAD OUTCOMES RIGHT NOW MATERNAL HEALTH AND CHILDBIRTH AND WE LOOK AT OUR COUNTRY COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE WORLD; WE ARE ONE OF THE WORST IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD; I’M MATERNAL HEALTH AND BABIES WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTH OUTCOMES WHY. 2 OR 3 COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD; THE CHANGES FROM TIME TO TIME. THE TOWN OF PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE. WE DON’T HAVE TIME TO CARE. FOR BRAND NEW BABIES. WE DON’T HAVE TIME FOR MOMS. TO GET TO BOND WITH THEIR BABY TO MAKE SURE THAT CAN NURSE IF THEY CHOOSE TO. TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN PHYSICALLY RECOVER FROM GIVING BIRTH. EVERYBODY STOP AND THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN YOUR LIFE FOR YOURSELVES WHO HAVE HAD TO DO THAT WORK. ARE WE OK WITH A MOM GOING BACK TO WORK IN 2 WEEKS. AND DO WE TELLER THAT HER ECONOMIC SECURITY AND HER HEALTH. AND THE WELFARE OF HER CHILD IS NOT IMPORTANT. AND WHAT WE SAY. THE PERSON IN GREATER MINNESOTA WHERE WE FIND ACCORDING TO THE ORISSA MINNESOTA. THESE POLICIES ARE LESS AVAILABLE AND MORE NEEDED. WHEN THEY GET A CANCER DIAGNOSIS. AND INSTEAD OF GETTING TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES RECOVER FROM CHEMO TREATMENT WHICH IS ANYBODY HAS BEEN THROUGH IT; I KNOW PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE. INSTEAD OF DOING THAT AND STAYING AWAY FROM CO-WORKERS WHO COULD GET THEM SICK AND GIVE GIVE THEM AN INFECTION THAT WOULD KILL THEM. INSTEAD OF SAYING WE’RE GOING TO CARE ABOUT YOUR HEALTH AND YOUR WELL-BEING AND YOUR ECONOMIC SECURITY. WE’RE GOING TO GIVE THEM NO OPTION BUT TO GO INTO WORK AND RISK THEIR LIVES. THE ECONOMIC SECURITY OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. THE MINNESOTA WAY MINNESOTA CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER AND SO HOUSE FILE 5 IS HERE BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT OUR WORKERS. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE SURE THAT OUR EMPLOYERS CAN COMPETE FOR TALENT RIGHT HERE IN OUR STATES. AND WE NEED TO BE SURE. THAT EVERYBODY IN MINNESOTA HAS THE TIME TO CARE. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. THERE’S AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.>>THE 4TH AND GIRLS FROM THIS FOLLOWS THE AMENDMENT IS COATED A 23 REPRESENTATIVE HOW HER SON TO YOUR AMENDMENT.>>THANK YOU MADAM AND MEMBERS THIS AMENDMENT IS A TECHNICAL IN ORDER UPDATE THE BILL FROM LAST YEAR.>>BECAUSE DID>>PASS IT THROUGH A BOTH BODIES LAST YEAR AND WE’RE BRINGING IT BACK SO WE’RE JUST MAKING A CONSISTENT SELF CHANGING SOME DATES AND UPDATING THE DOLLARS.>>ANY DISCUSSION TO THE AMENDMENT. SEEING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED POLICE SAY NO THE MOTION PREVAILS AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED THERE’S ANOTHER AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.>>THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE RUNBECK THOSE 2 MEN HOUSE PHONE NUMBER 5 THE 4TH ENGROSSMENT AS AMENDED. THE AMENDMENT IS CALLED IT A 26.>>THE MEMBER FROM ANOKA REPRESENTATIVE RUN BACK. THANK YOU; MADAM WE’RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF FINE SPEECHES TODAY; I HAVE A FEELING BUT I HAVE OF A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL. QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS WHICH WE’LL HARD HIT ON OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND EMPLOYEES AS WELL BECAUSE WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A $2 BILLION EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEE EMPLOYER TAX. AND SO WOULD SWITCH TO YIELD A MAN SPEAKER SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE RUN BACK. AND THANK THAT A SPEAKER SO I THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ARE. WAS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY AND DID THIS DID THE AUTHOR TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE STATE ECONOMIST TAKE A LOOK AT REALLY THE IMPACT OF THIS BILL ON THE STATE’S ECONOMY; INCLUDING SOME OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WAS THAT REVIEWED AND REPRESENT HOW HER SON.>>MADAM CHAIR AND REPRESENTATIVE RUN BACK AND LOTS OF REVIEW HAS BEEN DONE THIS. THIS IS GONE OVER 10 COMMITTEES AND I HAVE TALKED TO EXTENSIVELY WITH AREAS OF OF OUR STATE GOVERNOR MEANT FIND OUT WHAT THE IT AND MANY INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT OF THE SPILL WE ALSO REAMS OF DATA THAT WE HAVE COLLECTED BECAUSE IN 2015 THE LEGISLATURE ASKED THE UNIVERSITY MINNESOTA TO ANALYZE HOW WE COULD PROVIDE PAID FAMILY LEAVE IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA NOT IF HOW WE PROVIDE PAID FAMILY LEAVE IN MINNESOTA AND THROUGH THAT RESEARCH WE HAVE DISCOVERED THAT THERE’S GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO OUR STATE WE’RE GOING TO HAVE BETTER HEALTH CARE OUTCOMES AND THE COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SIR SIDNEY; THE COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA TESTIFIED THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE BETTER HEALTH CARE OUTCOMES FOR MOMS AND BABIES. WE ARE GOING TO SEE REDUCED USE OF PUBLIC PROGRAMS BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN’T GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE THEIR JOBS AND GO ON PUBLIC PROGRAMS AND GONE PUBLIC AND YOU KNOW HEALTH CARE IN ORDER TO GET THEIR NEEDS MET. THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE ECONOMIC SECURITY. WE HAVE TESTIMONY THAT AGAIN FROM THE COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE FEWER ADMISSION FREE ADMISSIONS TO THE HOSPITAL. IF PEOPLE DON’T HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK BEFORE THEY’RE READY AND GET AN INFECTION. I’M A GET GET FURTHER SICK; WE’RE GOING TO SEE LESS NEED FOR RESPITE CARE IN NURSING HOMES. AND WE KNOW THAT NURSING HOMES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE PLACE TO GET CARE. IT FOR SHORT TERM CARE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY TO THEIR MOM. I CAN SPEND A FEW WEEKS A FEW MOM MAKING SURE THAT YOU’RE RECOVERING FROM SURGERY. WE’VE TALKED TO THE DEPARTMENT MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET EXTENSIVELY ON MIKE A BILL A FEW YEARS AGO CHANCE SPEAK GIVE.>>THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM BACK REPRESENTED HOW HER SON HAS THE FLOOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION REPRESENT HOW HER SON.>>THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR; I TALKED TO COMMISSIONER OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET AND STAFF AT THE DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET WHO ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANALYSIS FOR THE IMPACT PAID FAMILY LEAVE FOR STATE WORKERS HAS HAD ON THEIR ABILITY TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN EMPLOYEES AND THE POSITIVE BENEFITS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN FOR STATE WORKFORCE; EVERYBODY FROM ENGINEERS TO YOU KNOW FOLKS WHO ARE PROVIDING HEALTH CARE. WE ARE BETTER RESULTS WITH THAT SO THERE IS THEN EXTENSIVE. DISCUSSION ON THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF THAT. IN ADDITION WE ALSO KNOW THAT IN OTHER STATES THAT HAVE DONE THIS THE INCREASE IN WORKFORCE PARTICIPATION IS SIGNIFICANT. CALIFORNIA SAW 10 TO 17% GREATER WORKFORCE; PARTICIPATION AMONG WOMEN SO THE BENEFITS AND THE ECONOMIC HIM PACKED ARE BRIGHT AND POSITIVE FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.>>A REPRESENTATIVE FROM BACKED. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER REALLY DIDN’T ASK ABOUT THE BENEFITS I ASKED ABOUT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. SO I’M ASSUMING WE DON’T KNOW AND HERE WE ARE TODAY WE’RE GOING TO AS A MASSIVE HIT ON OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY ON EVERY EMPLOYEE IN THE ENTIRE STATE TO BILLION DOLLAR TAX INCREASE. THAT’S WHAT MY AMENDMENT IS ASKING AS WE NEED TO STOP BEING IN DENIAL ALL THAT THAT TAXES AND GREATER REGULATIONS RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH TO DO BUSINESS DOES NOT HARM THE ECONOMY THAT COULD THE THAT’S FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS OF INSISTED NOBODY MAKES DECISIONS BASED ON INCREASED TAXES OR INCREASE REGULATIONS. WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT IT AND BEING BEING REAL ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING. SO THIS AMENDMENT SAYS START COLLECTING DATA SO THAT WE KNOW AS THE STATE WHAT IS HAPPENING. WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS BECAUSE WE’RE GOING TO LOSE JOBS. THE STATE IS GOING TO LOSE REVENUE WE’RE GOING TO LOSE EMPLOYERS THEY CAN JUST GO ACROSS THE STATE LINE IT WILL BE THE ONLY STATE IN THE NATION TRYING TO BUILD A BRAND NEW GOVERNMENT INSURANCE BUREAUCRACY. TAKING OVER FROM BUSINESSES WHAT THEY HAVE DONE SO WELL IN THE PAST. THEY DELIVER FRINGE BENEFITS AND MOST OF THEM DO; GOSH DARNED GOOD JOB AT IT SO. THE AMENDMENT WOULD SIMPLY SAY LET’S FIND OUT LET US NOT BE IN CONTINUAL DENIAL WHICH THE DEMOCRATS INSIST PLEASE SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION TO THE AMENDMENT REPRESENT HOW HER SON.>>MADAM CHAIR; I ASK MEMBERS TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT; IT’S I ACTUALLY RAN IT IT DID IN SOME OTHER STATE AGENCIES IT’S REALLY NOT WORKABLE.>>DEEP COLLECTS A LOT OF DATA EMPLOYERS IN OUR STATES. A REASON THAT HOUTHI PEOPLE WHO OPEN BUSINESSES PEOPLE WHO CLOSED BUSINESSES SO THIS DATA IS BEING COLLECTED BUT I THINK THAT IT THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE IT ECONOMICALLY SUCCESSFUL STATE TRY TO TO TO NARROW THE REASONS FOR BUSINESSES. LOST THEIR BUSINESSES GAMES. TO REASON IT’S REALLY NOT A FEASIBLE. AMENDMENT SO PLEASE VOTE NOW.>>FURTHER DISCUSSION THE MEMBER FOR MY SANITY REPRESENTED OUT.>>THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER MEMBERS; I’M I’M ACTUALLY KIND OF SURPRISED I THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE AN AMENDMENT THAT THE MAJORITY WOULD IF THIS BILL DOES WHAT YOU SAY IT’S GOING TO DO AND IT’S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR ECONOMY INTO THE BUSINESS ISN’T TO THEIR EMPLOYEES. GOSH I WOULD THINK YOU’D WANT TO SEE THE AND IT YOU KNOW IT THE LANGUAGE AND THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE RUN BACK FOR FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND TO CORRECT THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL; I’M JUST SIMPLY SAYS YOU KNOW TO THE EXTENT PRACTICABLE AND PROBABLY 5 LOCATIONS IN THE AMENDMENT SO I’M YOU KNOW I THINK IT’S WISE THAT WE LOOK AT WHAT THE IMPACT OF THE LEGISLATION THAT WE PASS IS NOW IF YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT IS CERTAINLY YOU SHOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS IF YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO DRIVE BUSINESSES OUT OF THE STATE OR IF IT’S GOING TO MEAN A LOSS OF EMPLOYEES AND JOBS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA IF YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW THAT THEN A NO VOTE AS IS THE RIGHT VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT BUT IF YOU THINK YOUR YOUR BILL IS GOING HELP AND YOU THINK THAT IT’S GOING TO CREATE JOBS AND GROW OUR ECONOMY AND STRENGTHEN OUR EMPLOYERS. THEN I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD ADOPT. AND FRANKLY FOR THOSE OF US WHO THINK THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND WE SHOULD TO FIND OUT IF IF OUR. BILLS IN OUR IDEAS ARE GETTING THE RESULTS THAT WE DESIRE. THIS IS THE SORT OF THING THAT WILL DO THAT THIS WILL GENERATE THE REPORTS WHICH WILL TELL US HEY IS THIS WORKING OR NOT AND IF IT’S NOT WORKING WE SHOULD COME BACK NEXT YEAR IN AND FIX OR THE NEXT YEAR. BUT YOU KNOW BY SAYING WE DON’T WANT TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION. I’M ACTUALLY IS KIND OF KIT ACTUALLY KIND OF CONFUSING TO ME I KNOW WHY WE WOULDN’T WANT MORE INFORMATION. SO WHAT YOU DO MEMBERS IF YOU VOTE AGAINST YOU’RE VOTING AGAINST HAVING INFORMATION ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION WILL BE EFFECTIVE AND WHETHER IT WILL ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT WE WANTED TO I FOR ONE WANT TO KNOW IS THIS GOING TO COST JOBS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA IF NOT GREAT. THAN WE SHOULD KNOW THAT TOO. BUT THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE RUN BACK FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND I THINK THIS IS THE SORT OF LANGUAGE WE SHOULD HAVE FRANKLY AND EVERY BILL THAT PASSES.>>THE MEMBER FOR MAMA SHOT REPRESENTATIVE BRISCOE SKI.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER WITH THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL YOU.>>SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE DRESS KOSKI THINK.>>MADAM SPEAKER OF SO REPRESENTATIVE HALVORSON A I’VE BEEN ASKED THE QUESTION A LITTLE MORE POINTED THAN REPRESENT RUN BACK DID. I DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THIS BILL WILL TAKE FROM THE PAYCHECKS OF MINNESOTA WORKERS PER YEAR.>>REPRESENTATIVE HOW HER SON. MADAME SPEAKER; I’M REPRESENTATIVE JUST IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU’RE HOW MUCH IT’S GOING TO COST TO PROVIDE ECONOMIC SECURITY AND JOB PROTECTION FOR MINNESOTA WORKERS IF THEY ARE SICK OR INJURED OR IF THEY HAVE A BABY AND I’VE GOT AN ANSWER FOR YOU. FOR WORK; THERE’S IT’S ABOUT THE 3 TENTHS OF ONE PERCENT OF THEIR WAGES FOR EMPLOYERS THEY MATCH IT AT 3 TENTHS OF ONE PERCENT OF THEIR WAGES. YOU DO THE MATH ON AVERAGE WAGES IN MINNESOTA ABOUT A CUP COFFEE A WEEK FOR EMPLOYEES. AND I’M HERE TO TELL YOU I THINK THAT MINNESOTA WORKERS ARE WORTH A CUP OF COFFEE A WEEK. I THINK MINNESOTA’S ECONOMIC SECURITY IS WORTH A CUP OF COFFEE A WEEK I THINK HEALTHY MOMS AND BABIES. WORTH A CUP OF COFFEE A WEEK. REPRESENTATIVE JUST KOSKI.>>THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER; THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE HALVORSON REPRESENT HALVORSON MINNESOTA WORKERS ARE NOT IN THEY WOULD SIMPLY LIKE TO HAVE THE MONEY THAT THEY EARN AND THEY WORK HARD FOR EVERY DAY BE ABLE TO TAKE IT USE IT FOR THEIR FAMILY SO THEIR FAMILY HAS SECURITY RATHER THAN THE GOVERNMENT SECURITY THAT YOU’RE TRYING TO BRING HERE TO MINNESOTA GOVERNMENT AS A MATTER OF FACT THIS BILL INCREASES THAT TACK. THIS MINNESOTA WORKERS BY 10% A 10% INCREASE IN TAXES. $1 BILLION YOU ARE STEALING FROM THE PAYCHECKS OF MINNESOTA WORKERS WITH THIS BILL. REPRESENT HALVORSON THAT’S NOT INSIGNIFICANT MINNESOTA WORKERS NEED THAT MONEY SO THAT THEY CAN RAISE THEIR KIDS PAY THEIR BILLS AND DO THE THINGS THAT THEY’D LIKE TO DO THE THINGS THAT THIS BIG OPPRESSIVE MINNESOTA GOVERNMENT. THE YOU SEEM SO BENT ON BUILDING EVEN BIGGER IS SUPPRESSING. TODAY. MASS SPEAKER WITH THE AUTHOR THE BILL YOU ONE MORE TIME.>>SHE WILL YELLED REPRESENTATIVE JUST KOSKI.>>THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER IS OUT OF OUR SON. HOW MANY JOBS WILL THIS BILL KILL.>>REPRESENTATIVE HOW HER SON. MAN AND THE MADAM SPEAKER; AND REPRESENTATIVE JUST GO.>>THIS BILL AND WHEN WE’VE SEEN OTHER STATES AND 8 OTHER STATES HAVE TAKEN THIS ON AT MOST RECENTLY A WASHINGTON STATE IS ROLLING OUT A SUCCESSFUL PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE PROGRAM IN THEIR STATE. AND THE RESULTS HAVE THEN BETTER JOBS BETTER SECURITY BETTER EMPLOYER ATTENTION.>>AND MORE CALM; BUT NO MORE.>>ABILITY FOR SMALL EMPLOYERS TO COMPETE WITH LARGE EMPLOYERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES THAT THEY CAN GET THE TALENT THAT THEY NEED IN THEIR WORKFORCE.>>REPRESENTATIVE TRUST CO SKI.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER; THANK REPRESENT HOWEVER; SOME YOU HEARD AT THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL ACTUALLY BELIEVES AFTER STATE GOVERNMENT TAKES FROM EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES ONE 0.8 BILLION DOLLARS BIENNIUM THAT THE BIG EMPLOYERS ARE GOING TO TURN AROUND AND CREATE BIGGER AND BETTER JOBS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. THAT’S WHAT THE AUTHOR THE BILL IS TRYING TO SELL US HERE TODAY MEMBERS. THAT’S WHY REPRESENT HAVE RUN BACKS AMENDMENT MAKES A GREAT DEAL OF SENSE. THAT’S ALSO WHY THIS BILL IS MISGUIDED TO BEGIN WITH. BUT MADAM SPEAKER; THANKS FOR YOUR INDULGENCE REPRESENT RUN BETTER. REPRESENTATIVE HOWEVER SON YOUR BILL IS GOING TO KILL A LOT OF JOBS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. THE EMPLOYERS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE TAXATION THAT THIS BIG GOVERNMENT IS FORCING ON THEM. AND IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT WORKERS; YOU’D WITHDRAW THIS BILL TODAY BECAUSE THOSE STATE WORKERS THOSE WORKERS IN OUR STATE. THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN FAMILIES INSTEAD OF. A BIG OVERLY BENEVOLENT GOVERNMENT SOMEHOW TRYING TO LOOK AFTER THEM AFTER IT STEALS THEIR MONEY FROM THEM IF YOU THINK THAT’S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE INTERESTED IN YOU’RE COMPLETELY WRONG. THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER.>>THE MEMBER FROM ANOKA REPRESENTATIVE RUN BACKED; THANK YOU MAN; I’M SURE I’D LIKE A RULE COMPANIES REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK REQUEST A ROLL CALL SEEING 15 HANDS THERE WILL BE A ROLL CALL ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION TO THE AMENDMENT. SEEING NONE THE CLERK WILL TAKE THE ROLE. THE CLERK WILL CLOSE THE ROLE. THEY’RE BEING 56 AYES AND 73 NAYS THE MOTION DOES NOT PREVAIL THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPT.>>THERE ARE NO FURTHER AMENDMENTS THAT THE DEATHS THE CLERK WILL GIVE THE BILL ITS 3RD READING.>>AND READING HOUSE ALL NUMBER 5 AS A MAN THAT.>>3RD READING AS AMENDED ACT DISCUSSION TO THE BELL. REPRESENTATIVE THE MEMBER FROM SCOTT REPRESENTATIVE OLGA.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER PLEDGE REMEMBER THAT I’M HERE I VERY SELDOM GET UP HERE. I’VE SEEN THIS BILL NOW IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OVER THE SEEMS LIKE LONGER; BUT PROBABLY A YEAR. AND I REALLY THINK IT IS WELL INTENTIONED AND THERE IS DEFINITELY ARE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IS THE LEGISLATURE. BUT I’M ALSO VERY CONCERNED WITH WHAT WE’RE DOING HERE AND BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL. THIS IS BEING REFERRED TO AS A PREMIUM. FROM WHAT I SEE IT’S A TAX. SO WE’RE ADDING ANOTHER EMPLOYER TAX THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THAT AS YOU GO THROUGH THE FISCAL NOTE; NOT A LOT OF THIS SOUNDS LIKE. INSURANCE PREMIUM POLICY TYPE THING IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE A TAX. THE SECOND THING WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IS THIS BILL HAS GOT TO PARK. IT’S IT’S GOT THE PREMIUM MECHANISM TO BRING ABOUT PAYMENTS TO PEOPLE. BUT IT ALSO HAS A LOT OF NEW POLICY. AND HAVING RUN A BUSINESS I RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF TIMES THE REGULATORY COST TO A BUSINESS. ALMOST EXCEEDS THAT OF A OF ATTACK. SO AS WE LOOK THROUGH THIS BILL I THINK WE HAVE TO BE COGNISANT THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE ADDING TO THE EMPLOYMENT COST WITH THE POINT OH 6. BUT WE’RE OUT ACTUALLY ADDING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REGULATION WHICH IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE PICKED UP BY EMPLOYERS. WONDERING I’M ADAM A SPEAKER IF THE BILL AUTHOR WOULD YIELD.>>REPRESENT OUR SON WILL YIELD REPRESENT VOGEL.>>AND I THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. REPRESENTATIVE HELGERSON AS I LOOK THROUGH THIS REFERS TO PREMIUM A LOT. IS THIS A PREMIUM OR IS IT A TAX.>>REPRESENTATIVE HOWEVER SON REPRESENTATIVE.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENT A VOCAL THE BILL AND>>THE POLICY WERE MODELED ON MINNESOTA’S UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE; MINNESOTA STARTED PROVIDING UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE ABOUT 80 YEARS AGO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ECONOMIC SECURITY TO PEOPLE WHO FOUND OUT OF A JOB FOR TEMPER A PERIOD OF TIME AND NEEDED A BRIDGE AND SO THE SUCCESS OF THAT PROGRAM THE UNIVERSITY OF DETERMINE THAT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD MODEL FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. SO IT WAS WRITTEN. TO MODEL THE WAY THAT WE PAY FOR UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE SMALL PREMIUM.>>REPRESENTATIVE VOGEL THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER I GUESS WE DIDN’T HEAR IS AT A PREMIUM OR IS IT A TAX BECAUSE THERE’S 2 DISTINCT DIFFERENCES. CAN I’D LIKE TO CLARIFY WHAT IT IS. IF I’M REPRESENTATIVE HELGERSON WOULDN’T YIELD AGAIN PLEASE. SHE WILL YELLED REPRESENTATIVE HOW HER SON AT MADAME SPEAKER>>DID CLARIFY THE BILL CLEARLY STATES. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER IF SHE WOULD YIELD AGAIN. SHE WILL YELLED THANK YOU. AND AS YOU’RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR BEING ON COMMERCE WHEN WE COME>>WITH NEW INSURANCE PRODUCTS GENERALLY THEY HAVE A AN ACTUAL WARILY ASSESSMENT AND I REALIZE THAT THERE WAS SOME STUDIES DONE THAT WERE USED TO BUILD A FISCAL NOTE BUT I’M WONDERING HOW MANY ACTUARIES WERE THEY INVOLVED IN THIS WOULD PROVE THE ACCURACY OF THE ASSUMPTIONS.>>REPRESENTATIVE HALVORSON MADAM SPEAKER THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY THE DEPARTMENT OF A EMPLOYMENT ECONOMICS.>>PURITY OF THE IMPLANT AND DEPARTMENT OF MEN ALL THAT ECONOMIC AND ANALYSIS ON THIS BILL; SO I DIDN’T THEIR ACTUARIES THANK YOU MADAM.>>A SPEAKER SO IF SHE WOULD YIELD AGAIN; I’M ASSUMING THEM THAT THERE WAS NO ACTUAL ACTUARY THAT ACTUALLY REVIEW ASSUMPTIONS.>>REPRESENTATIVE HALVORSON MANISTEE CORRUPT AND ABOVE ALL AS THEY SAY THAT I CAN’T SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE THE DID THE REPRESENTATIVE THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER.>>I’D LIKE TO THEN MOVE ON A SONG AS WE’RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS IS A THAT IN HIM IN THE INSURANCE POLICY. IF THE AUTHOR BUT YIELD AGAIN PLEASE.>>SHE WILLIAM GO.>>TO A REPRESENTATIVE HELGERSON COULD YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF ANY INSURANCE COMPANY THAT HAS EVER STARTED A NEW POLICY THAT HAS CHARGED A PREMIUM HOLDERS FOR ONE AND A HALF YEARS BEFORE A CLAIM SO THEY COULD BUILD THEIR RESERVES.>>REPRESENTATIVE HOW HER THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTATIVE WELL AGAIN THIS IS BASED ON UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE AND IT IS.>>IT WOULD UNWISE FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA TO BEGIN P TO A PROGRAM. THAT. THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF MINNESOTANS NEED BECAUSE THEY LEAVE ALMOST HALF A BILLION DOLLARS OF WAGES ON THE TABLE TAKING UNPAID LEAVE. IT WOULD BE ON WISE FOR THE STATE NOT TO MAKE SURE THAT FUND WAS AVAILABLE. BUT THE MONEY THAT’S COLLECTED IN THE FUND GOES OUT TO EMPLOYEES.>>REPRESENTATIVE VOGEL THANK.>>MADAM SPEAKER; BUT SPEAKING WHAT I HAVE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF INSURANCE EXPERIENCE AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN AN INSURANCE COMPANY COME INTO THE MARKET AND SAY LET’S TAKE IT FOR INSTANT COMING OUT WITH A NEW HOMEOWNERS POLICY YOU’RE GOING TO PAY A PREMIUM FOR A YEAR AND A HALF ON THAT HOMEOWNERS POLICY. BUT YOU CAN’T FILE A CLAIM UNTIL 18 MONTHS AFTER YOU HAVE TO PAY THOSE PREMIUMS. TO LEGISLATORS AND THAT’S WHAT THIS IS DOING IF YOU LOOK AT THE FISCAL NOTE; YOU’LL SEE THAT THE MONEY IS BEING COLLECTED FOR A YEAR AND A HALF HALF BEFORE ANYBODY CAN SUBMIT A CLAIM BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BUILD UP A RESERVE AND I AGREE THAT IT ONLY PRUDENT TO HAVE THAT RESERVE THERE. IT IS RATHER UNFAIR WHEN WE BUILD THAT RESEARCH OR OFF OF PREMIUMS THAT ARE BEING PAID BY PEOPLE WHO MAY NEVER HAVE A CHANCE TO COLLECT. AND THE EXAMPLE I WOULD USE YOU MAY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT’S IN THEIR MID OR LATE 6 THESE THAT PAYS INTO THIS THEY TURN 69 OR 70 DECIDE TO COLLECT SOCIAL SECURITY RETIRE. THEY PAID FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. THEY’VE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO COLLECT ON ANY OF THIS BECAUSE IT WON’T PAY AND NOW THEY’RE NOT EMPLOYED ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY’RE RETIRED SO I’D ASK YOU AS YOU LOOK THROUGH THE US TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU THINK IT’S FAIR THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR A YEAR AND A HALF BEFORE THEY ANOTHER THING I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF PAGE 8 ON THE FISCAL NOTE. YOU’LL NOTICE THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSE CAN RUN UP TO 7%. NOW THE INTERESTING THING IS HERE THAT THERE’S GOING TO BE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES PAID OUT OF THIS SPECIAL RESERVE FUND AGAIN BEFORE ANYBODY COUSIN CAN CLASS. SO WE GO BACK TO OUR TYPICAL INSURANCE COMPANY. IF PAYTON FOR A YEAR AND A HALF OF YOUR PREMIUM MONEY YOU CAN’T MAKE A CLAIM. BUT ALSO SOME OF YOUR MONEY IS ALREADY GONE INTO ADMINISTRATION. I JUST THINK THERE’S A FAIRNESS POINT HERE THAT HAS TO BE EXPLORED BECAUSE I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT ANYBODY IN THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY WOULD GET AWAY WITH THIS. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE RATES THAT ARE BEING CHARGED YOU’LL NOTICE IN MY NERDY MANNER I CREATED A SPREADSHEET THAT SOME BEEN SPREAD AROUND. AND THE REASON I DID THIS A FELLOW REPRESENTATIVES IS BECAUSE I ASKED FOR THIS THING TO BE STRESSED BECAUSE AS WE KNOW THERE’S NO ACTUARY THAT HAS SIGNED OFF ON THIS AND THESE ASSUMPTIONS. THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE BASED ON 2 STUDIES DONE BY 2 UNIVERSITIES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FISCAL NOTE; YOU’LL SEE QUITE A FEW MESSAGES SAYING WE’VE USED THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE THEY’RE THE ONLY THING WE HAVE AVAILABLE. I CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SPREADSHEET THAT I CIRCULATED. AND YOU’LL NOTICE IN THAT TOP LEFT-HAND CORNER THOSE ASSUMPTIONS MATCH THE ASSUMPTIONS IN THE FISCAL NOTE. IF YOU LOOK BELOW AND THAT LITTLE BOXED AREA. THE ASSUMPTION FOR MATERNITY SAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE ONLY GOING TO TAKE OFF 8.3 WEEKS. QUIST A FEW EMPLOYEES AND A FEW PEOPLE I KNOW AND SAID IF YOU’RE ENTITLED TO A 0.3 EARNED 12 WEEKS. WOULD YOU CHOOSE 8.3 YEAR. WELL; NOT SURPRISINGLY MOST OF THEM ALL OF THEM HAVE SAID I’LL TAKE THE 12 WEEKS. THE SAME THING WITH BONDING CAN YOU IMAGINE THE NEW FATHER COMING HOME AND YOU’RE SAYING YOU CAN CHOOSE BETWEEN 6 POINT 4 WEEKS OFF OR 12 WEEKS; HOW LONG WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE WITH YOUR NEWBORN CHILD. THEREFORE I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE REMEMBER THERE IS NO RATE CAP IN THIS BILL THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY IT WAS TAKEN OUT. SO WITH NO RATE CAP YOU LOOK AT THAT BOTTOM BOX AND YOU GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO THE LEFT. PAYING OUT 994;000 RATHER THAN 780;000 I’M SORRY TO THE RIGHT. I GUESS I’VE BEEN ON THE RIGHT TOO LONG AND I HAVE MIXED UP. FOR ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT AND YOU SEE THAT 0.7 6.7 6 IS DERIVED FROM THE AMOUNT OF THE PREMIUM THAT HAS BEEN COLLECTED COMPARED TO THE ESTIMATED PAYOUTS WITH ASSUMING 12 WEEKS AND 12 WEEKS UPTAKE. IF PEOPLE DECIDE THAT MAYBE THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE WITH THEIR CHILD FOR THE ENTIRE DURATION OF WHAT THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR. THE ASSUMPTION IS ALREADY OFF. NOT ONLY THAT IF YOU LOOK BELOW WHAT I DID WAS I I SAID OK IF WE DO THIS AND IF THAT ASSUMPTION COMES RIGHT. NOT ONLY IN THE SECOND YEAR ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE THE RATES BECAUSE NOW YOU KNOW EUROPE TAKE US 12 WEEKS. BUT YOU’RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND GRAB MORE MONEY FOR THE PREVIOUS A VETERAN BALANCE RIGHT BECAUSE YOU HAD A A DEFICIT THAT FIRST PERIOD. SO I’M NOT SAYING THIS WILL HAPPEN; I KNOW SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY THAT. THIS ISN’T GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT IF IT DOES ARE WE BAIRD TO BE ALMOST CHARGING ONE PERCENT OF PAYROLL RATHER THAN 60 BASIS POINTS BECAUSE THIS COULD HAPPEN PEOPLE COULD DECIDE THAT THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE 12 WEEKS; THEN EITHER 6 OR 8 WEEKS IF THEY’RE GOING TO GET PAID AND THEY CAN STAY HOME WITH THEIR NEW CHILD. IF YOU GO TO THE END OF THE FISCAL NOTE; IT SAYS THERE WILL BE IMPACTS ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT THERE. WELL BECAUSE ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE NOW GOING TO BE MADE TO PAY THIS AS WELL. THE FISCAL NOTE AND GOING TO A LOCAL THAT THERE WASN’T A LOCAL IMPACT NOTE WITH THE US MAY EVEN BE HARD TO CALCULATE. SO NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO TAX EMPLOYERS; MORE AND EMPLOYEES MORE. WE’RE GOING TO TAX ALL OF OUR CITIZENS MORE BECAUSE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THIS UP SOMEWHERE. FELLOW REPRESENTATIVES I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THIS ADDRESSING WHAT WE CAN. BUT I THINK BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT A NEW TAX THAT COULD GET AWAY FROM US AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL REGULATORY TAX THAT’S GOING TO COME BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE POLICY THAT’S IN HERE THAT WE STUDY THIS A LITTLE MORE AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE INPUT SO THAT WE DON’T END UP CAUSING MORE HARM THAN GOOD TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE THINK WE’RE GOING TO HELP THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER.>>THE MEMBER FROM THE FILM ARE REPRESENTED DAVIDS.>>WELL THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER MEMBERS. I AM THE BEARER OF GOOD NEWS.>>THIS BILL IS SO BAD; BUT IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WE ARE PROVIDING FALSE HOPE TO MINNESOTANS INSTEAD OF WORKING ON SOMETHING THAT COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN. SO ARE SIMPLE GOAL; I’VE NEVER SEEN YOU SO WORKED UP. DON’T WORRY IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OKAY JUST CALM DOWN PLEASE. SO MEMBERS. THIS TAX NOW THINK ABOUT THIS JUST A SECOND AND I REPEAT A FEW THINGS REPRESENT VOGEL SAID SO ELOQUENTLY. THIS TAX IS GOING TO BE COLLECTED STARTING JANUARY OF 2022. BUT NO CLAIMS PAID. UNTIL JULY 2023. A PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANY TRIED TO DO THIS THEY WOULD BE IN JAIL. THEY WOULD BE IN JAIL IF GREG DAVIDS SHIFTING SANDS MUTUAL LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY STARTED. I BROUGHT THIS TO THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT.>>MEMBERS THEY WOULD LAUGH ME OUT OF THE PLACES THAT YOU CAN’T DO THAT YOU CAN’T COLLECT PREMIUMS. YOU CAN’T CUT THE TAX WITHOUT BENEFITS. YOU’D BE IN JAIL. EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES WE PAYING TAXES FOR SOMETHING THEY CAN HAVE FOR A TEEN MONTHS; ONE AND A HALF YEARS WE’RE COLLECTING TAX SAYS FOR ONE AND A HALF YEARS BEFORE ANY BENEFITS CAN BE PAID FOR. MEMBERS THIS IS PAID FOR BY THE EMPLOYERS AND THE EMPLOYEES SO WHAT DID WE JUST DO. WE ADDED ANOTHER COST TO EMPLOYERS US AND WE GAVE EVERY WORKING MAN AND WOMAN IN THIS STATE A PAY CAUGHT. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT. THIS BILL IS RAISING TAXES ON EVERY EMPLOYER EVERY POINT THE STATE INCLUDING. PRIVATE EMPLOYERS NONPROFIT CITIES COUNTIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICT WHERE THEY GET THEIR MONEY FROM. WE’RE GOING TO RAISE TAXES ON THAT SIDE TOO. SO WE GIVE THEM A PAY INCREASE WHAT I CAN SO I’M REALLY INTO ACTUARIAL STUDIES I WHEN I READ THEM I JUST THINK THEY’RE PAGE TURNERS THEY ARE SO EXCITING. AND SO I WAS LOOKING FOR THE ACTUARIAL STUDY HERE. THERE IS NONE. I THOUGHT WELL THIS MAY BE GRUBER GARMIN DID IT. BUT THEY DIDN’T EVEN DO IT. THERE’S NO ACTUARIAL STUDY THERE’S THERE’S MY GOOD FRIEND; THE AUTHOR THIS BILL SAID WELL THERE’S ECONOMIC ANALYSIS. WHAT IS THAT. I WANT TO ACTUARIAL STUDY. WE GET OUR INFORMATION WE’RE BASING DECISIONS BASED ON A STUDY FROM THE INSTITUTE FOR WOMEN’S POLICY RESEARCH. THAT GIVES ME A LOT OF WARM FUZZIES. THIS BILL WE CANNOT MODEL ACTUALLY WE CANNOT MATT MODEL PASS THE FIRST YEAR. WE CAN’T MODEL IT PAST THE FIRST YEAR; I’VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ACTUARIAL STUDY SO WE CAN LEASE GO PAST THE FOR THIS YEAR SO WE DON’T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AFTER THE FIRST YEAR INFLATION. INTO ACCOUNT ESTIMATED BENEFITS. OR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. SO LET’S JUST LOOK AT THE STATE OF WASHINGTON FOR A SHORT TIME. THEY’RE BRILLIANT PLAN WENT INTO EFFECT JANUARY FIRST 2020. I HAVE AN ARTICLE BEFORE ME FROM FEBRUARY 25TH; THE 2020. THEY ARE TAKING OK SO YOU GOT THE SHORT WINDOW YOU WANT TO GET MONEY TO THE LADY THAT JUST HAD A BABY OR THE PERSON THAT SECT WITHIN 2 WEEKS RIGHT. THEY’RE NOT SENDING THEIR CHECKS OUT FOR OVER 10 WEEKS. WEEKS. SO MUCH IS SO SO THE STATEMENT THAT THE WASHINGTON PLAN IS WORKING IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. MORE THAN 30;000 PEOPLE APPLIED FOR BENEFITS. 10;000 CHECKS HAVE BEEN SENT. 20;000 PEOPLE HAVE NOT RECEIVE THEIR CHECK THAT’S HOW WONDERFUL. WASHINGTON IS WORKING. A TACOMA NURSE JESSICA JACKSON SAID SHE APPLIED FOR PAID FAMILY BENEFITS ON JANUARY 6 AFTER HAVING HER DAUGHTER. 7 WEEKS LATER JACKSON SAID SHE STILL DOES NOT HAVE OR CHECK. MAYBE HAVE BEEN YOU KNOW. I MEAN THIS REMINDS ME IN SO MANY ASPECTS I MEAN WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG WITH THE STATE. THAT BROUGHT ENSURE AND MEMOIRS. NOW WE WANT TO DO THIS. ONE OF THE MOST DISTRESSING PARTS OF THIS BILL. BACK 10 YEARS AGO OR 9 YEARS GOING EVER WAS ON ENSURE DEBATE I REMEMBER SITTING IN COMMERCE COMMITTEE SAYING OK YOU’RE START A 1.5%. THERE’S A CAP OF 3.5 I SAID LET’S PUT THE CAP AT 1.5 IF THAT’S WHAT IT TAKES THAT’S WHAT YOU GET. ON A ROW WE HAVE TO 3.5 IT WILL NEVER GO TO THAT. WAS THE NEXT YEAR WITH A 2.5. THANK HEAVENS AT LEAST THERE’S A CAP. IN READING THIS BILL. THIS BILL HAS NO HAPPEN. OH MY GOSH WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG WITH THAT. HOW ABOUT THE TOMFOOLERY CHICANERY AND SKULLDUGGERY THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH NO PREMIUM. YEAH PEOPLE THAT VOTE FOR THIS TODAY ARE VOTING FOR UNLIMITED. FROM THE PEOPLE IT’S NOT THOUGH A RECENT THAT’S CAUSING IT’S NOT THE ONE YOU’RE TOOK A 3RD OF ONE PERCENT OF A HALF A 3RD PERCENT. IT’S NOT THAT THEY CAN GO TO UNLIMITED. INFINITY AND BEYOND YES; IT CAN SO MEMBERS. AGAIN DON’T GET TOO UPSET ABOUT A NEW THIS IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT’S A REALLY REALLY HORLEY THOUGHT OUT BILL KNOW ACTUARIAL STUDIES WE’RE GETTING OUR INFORMATION IN FACT DEED SAYS. DEED SAYS WE HAVE NO ESTIMATES OF UPTAKE RATES OR THE WAY OF PRODUCING OUR OWN ESTIMATES FOR CALLED FLYING. LEAVES. WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM DEED ON THIS. BUT BY GOLLY WE GOT STUFF FROM THE INSTITUTE FOR WOMEN’S POLICY RESEARCH SEARCH; WHATEVER THAT IS. SO MEMBERS THIS IS AN EASY NO VAULT AND ITS GOING PAST WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT BUT AS I IN 20 YEARS HERE UNTIL LAST YEAR I NEVER SAID THIS. THANK GOD FOR THE SENATE; THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. THE NUMBER FROM GOODHUE REPRESENTATIVE HALEY. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND I HAVE TO OPPOSE THIS ONE SIZE FITS ALL TOO BILLION DOLLAR MANDATE.>>NOT BECAUSE I DON’T CARE ABOUT MOTHERS OR CARE ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR CARE ABOUT MY EMPLOYERS. BUT IN FACT BECAUSE I DO. I THINK SOMETIMES IT’S EASY TO SAY WE’VE GOT TO SORT OF STICK IT TO THESE BIG BAD CORPORATIONS OR EMPLOYERS THAT AREN’T DOING THE RIGHT THING. BUT LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE EMPLOYERS THAT I KNOW OF IN MINNESOTA EMPLOYERS IN MY DISTRICT. I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH DALE. HE WORKED FOR A GROCERY STORE OUTFIT FOR A LOT OF YEARS AND THEN DECIDED I’VE GOT WHAT IT TAKES I CAN GO OUT ON MY OWN AND HE OPENED HIS OWN MEAT SHOP CALLED MEET HEADS. EVERYBODY IN TOWN LOVES ME HEADS. THAT’S WHERE WE GO TO GET OUR GRADUATION PARTIES CATERED THAT’S WHERE YOU TAKE YOUR DEAR FEW WANT THE VENISON PROCESS YOU GO TO MEET HEADS. WELL A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. DALE MOVED HIS CATERING BUSINESS AND HIS VENICE AND PROCESSING BUSINESS. DEAR PROCESSING TO WISCONSIN. JUST ACROSS THE BRIDGE. AND HE PUT A SIGN ON TO ON MARQUEE AT ME HAD SAT SAID. SHOPS FOR SALE. IS HE CAN’T. MAKE IT ANY MORE. HE’S GOT 15 OR 20 EMPLOYEES. AND THE MANDATES ON A BUSINESS THAT SIZE THAT AGAIN IS VERY WELL VISITED BY FOLKS IN RED WING HE CAN’T MAKE IT ANY MORE THE MEAT SHOPS FOR SALE. HOW ABOUT A COMPANY CALLED. BANKS THERE CAN AFFORD ROSS HAS BEEN A WIFE MARLENE AND BOB STARTED THIS BUSINESS 20 YEARS AGO AND NOW 3 OF THEIR SONS ARE IN IT. FOR ALL OF YOU HUNTER AND FISHERMAN THEY MAKE THE WINDS LOOK I’M OUT THERE MAKE ALL KINDS OF STUFF FOR HUNTING AND FISHING THEY LOVE MINNESOTA. WE HAVE 18 EMPLOYEES NOW AND THEIR SONS ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER THIS BUSINESS. THEY’VE COME TO MY OFFICE MANY TIMES TALKING ABOUT THE HIGH COST OF HEALTH CARE THE HIGH COST OF MANDATES THE HIGH TAXES WE HAVE IN THIS STATE. THEY WILL DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO KEEP THAT FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS IN CANNON FALLS AND PASS IT ON TO THEIR SONS. BUT IT IS TOUGH. AT THIS WOULD JUST ADD MORE TO THEIR BURDEN. LET’S TALK ABOUT GEMINI CANNON FALLS AGAIN FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS.>>50 YEARS IN THE COMMUNITY OVER A 1000 EMPLOYEES FANTASTIC MINNESOTA SUCCESS STORY. THE HIGH SCHOOL ROBOTICS TEAM. GEMINI GIVES 3 FULL-RIDE SCHOLARSHIPS TO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO WANT TO BECOME ENGINEERS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT’S THE FUTURE OF OUR STATE. LAST YEAR GAVE 10’S OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL SO THEY COULD BUY BRAND NEW CTE EQUIPMENT SO KIDS COULD LEARN. ON ROBOTICS AND CNC MACHINES ETCETERA. DON’T TELL ME EMPLOYERS DON’T CARE ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYEES OR DON’T CARE ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY. THESE EMPLOYEES LIVE UP TO WHAT. TERRE HAUTE PERSON YOU SAID WHAT WE VALUE IN MINNESOTA WHAT WE CARE ABOUT. INTEGRITY FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR CUSTOMERS. OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES THROUGH HARD WORK SUPPORTING THEIR SMALL DOWNTOWNS. BUT WE’VE GOT TO KEEP THEM IN THOSE SMALL DOWNTOWNS AND I’M VERY CONCERNED THAT THIS MANDATE. $2 BILLION IN TAXES. IT’S GOING TO TAKE THE NEXT DAY A DEAL AND HIS MEAT HEAD SHOP RIGHT ACROSS THE RIVER. THAT’S WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE 3.3% UNEMPLOYMENT; MINNESOTA WE HAVE THE SECOND HIGHEST WORKFORCE; LABOR PARTICIPATION RATE IN THE ENTIRE US WE HAVE TO 10 JOBS FOR EVERY 7 JOB. SEEKERS. THIS IS NOT A JOB CREATING BILL. THIS IS A JOB KILLING BILL. ARE EMPLOYERS ARE BEING CREATIVE. THEY WANT FLEXIBILITY WITH THEIR BENEFIT STRUCTURE BECAUSE THEY’RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN HIGH QUALITY WORKERS IN THIS STATE. THE LAST THING WE SHOULD BE DOING. IS PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON THAT THE LAST THING. I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT BECAUSE YOU’RE DAVID MENTIONED THESE PROGRAMS IN WASHINGTON; SO THIS WAS IN MY E-MAIL BOX TODAY FROM RED WING SHOE. ANOTHER EMPLOYER THAT I TALK ABOUT OFF AND I’M VERY PROUD OF RED WING SHOES AND IT’S A BRAND THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE PROUD OF IN MINNESOTA. SO TODAY I GET THIS JUST A HEADS UP BARB FOOD FOR THOUGHT AS YOU CONTINUE TO FIGHT ON THIS ONE. BOTH WASHINGTON AND MASSACHUSETTS HAVE HAD A DELAY DUE TO THEIR SITES NOT BEING READY FOR PAYMENT. SO RED WING SO THAT THE EMPLOYEES ALL OVER THE WORLD RIGHT SO THEY’RE TRYING TO PROCESSES FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES IN WASHINGTON AND MASSACHUSETTS. WE OBVIOUSLY OUT SOME PREMIUM AND AND REPORTING. BUT WHEN WE WENT TO UPLOAD THE REPORTS AND SEND PAYMENTS OUT THE SITES WERE NOT READY. GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE RUNNING AND OUR BUILDING TECHNOLOGY TO SUPPORT THESE TYPES OF BENEFITS IF WE MUST GO AHEAD 3RD PARTY. PROVIDERS HAVE BETTER TEMPLATES. $2 BILLION IN TAXES TO PLACE DON’T SHUT DOWN MY MAIN STREET BUSINESSES DON’T CLOSE THE BUSINESSES THAT SUPPORT. WORLD MINNESOTA AND IN FACT SUPPORT ALL OF MINNESOTA. WE CAN’T VOTE ON THIS BILL TONIGHT. WE MUST VOTE NO. THANK YOU.>>THE MEMBER FROM HENNEPIN REPRESENTATIVE LONG.>>I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM SPEAKER I’D LIKE TO SHARE 2 STORIES TODAY ABOUT WHY THIS BILL IS ON HORTON AND I’M GLAD WE’RE TALKING ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES BECAUSE I HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER FROM MY DISTRICT WHO IS HERE IN THE GALLERY ACERA PEOPLE BERG AND SHE OWNS A BIG RAT WHICH IS AN AMAZING BUSINESS AND YOU SHOULD ALL CHECK IT OUT THEY SO SENATORS OILS YOU CAN SAMPLE THEM THERE IT’S DELICIOUS YOU SHOULD ALL GO TO AN AMAZING BUSINESS. SARAH HAS 5 EMPLOYEES AT HER IT’S A SMALL BUSINESS AND SHE HAD AN SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHO BROKE BOTH HER ARMS AND NEEDED TO GO OUT ON MEDICAL LEAVE. SO IN A SMALL BUSINESS; YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE YOUR FAMILY. RIGHT YOU WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THEM YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE GOING TO BE OK AND TOUGH TIMES IN THEIR LIVES LIKE THIS. SHE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HER EMPLOYEE COULD HAVE HER FULL PAY COULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO STAY OUT COME BACK TO WORK. SHE WAS AN AMAZING EMPLOYEE ONE OF HER TOP SALES PEOPLE AND SO SHE GAVE HER THAT OPTION SHE GAVE HER THE ABILITY TO STAY OUT UH HUH WITH FULL PAY WHILE SHE WAS RECOVERING. BUT BECAUSE SHE IS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. THAT CAME OUT OF HER FAMILY’S BUDGET. THAT CAME OUT OF HER AND HER HUSBAND AND HER CHIP CHILDREN’S. FAMILY BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO HELP PAY FOR HER EMPLOYEE AND AS A RESULT. THEY HAD TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES. THEY FELL BEHIND ON THEIR HOME MORTGAGE A FELL BEHIND ON THEIR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS LOAN. IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO COVER FOR THIS ONE EMPLOYEE. AND AS A RESULT SARAH HAS BECOME A PASSIONATE ADVOCATE FOR BILLS LIKE THIS FOR PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE. BECAUSE BIG BUSINESSES DON’T HAVE TO FACE THOSE CHOICES; BIG BUSINESSES DON’T HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY’RE GOING TO EAT INTO THEIR PERSONAL BUDGET OF THE BUSINESS OWNER TO BE ABLE TO CARE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES THEY ALL OFFER THIS RIGHT. AND SO EMPLOYEES WHO WORK FOR BIG BUSINESSES GET THESE BENEFITS EMPLOYEES WHO WORK FOR SMALL BUSINESSES DOLE; SMALL BUSINESSES ARE AT A CAN BETTER TO DISADVANTAGE IN OUR STATE BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT ABLE TO OFFER THE SAME BENEFITS AS LARGE BUSINESSES AND SARAHS RUN THE NUMBERS FOR HER BUSINESS AND SHE SAID IT WILL COST ABOUT $111 A MONTH TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE FOR EMPLOYEES. AND THAT’S NOT A SMALL EXPENSE FOR A BUSINESS LIKE HERS. BUT IT IS ONE THAT SHE FEELS IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN HER EMPLOYEES TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT IF THEY GET INJURED IF HEAVEN FORBID ANOTHER ONE HAS A SERIOUS INJURY LIKE THIS THAT THEY CAN COME BACK TO WORK. THE SECOND STORY IS MY STORY. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LETTER THAT EVERYBODY WAS SAYS IN ONE OF THE SENTENCES THAT UH THIS BILL WOULD ALLOW EMPLOYEES TO BE AWAY FROM THEIR JOB FOR UP TO 24 WEEKS EACH YEAR. 24 WEEKS EACH YEAR. THAT SOUNDS INCREDIBLY SCARY RIGHT. BUT IT IS UTTERLY OFFENSIVE AND WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS AND WHAT THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE THAT WE’RE MAKING ABOUT MINNESOTANS SO TO BE ABLE TO BE AWAY FROM YOUR JOB EACH YEAR YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SITUATION LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO ME A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE YOU HAVE TO QUALIFYING EVENTS HAPPENED IN THE EXACT SAME YEAR. SO FOR ME THAT WAS THE BIRTH OF MY FIRST SON AND IT WAS THE DEATH. MY FATHER-IN-LAW WHO WAS GOING THROUGH HOSPICE IN OUR HOME. WHEN I WAS PRIVILEGED TO WORK FOR AN EMPLOYER WHO GAVE ME PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE. SO THAT I COULD TAKE TIME BOTH TO CARE FOR MY NEW SON WHEN HE WAS BORN AND ONE MONTH LATER TO TAKE CARE MY FATHER-IN-LAW WHEN HE WAS GOING THROUGH HOSPICE IN OUR HOME. IT WAS AN AMAZING HONOR AND PRIVILEGE THAT MY FATHER-IN-LAW GOT TO MEET OUR SON. AND I DIDN’T ABUSE THE PRIVILEGE OF TAKING 24 WEEKS OF LEAVE. I TOOK 4 WEEKS TO CARE FOR MY SON I TOOK ONE WEEK TO CARE FOR MY FATHER-IN-LAW AND GUESS WHAT THAT’S WHAT MOST MINNESOTANS DO WITH THE CURRENT BENEFITS THEY HAVE THEY DON’T GO THE FULL TIME MINNESOTANS WANT TO WORK THEY WANT TO GET BACK TO WORK AND WHEN YOU HAVE A BILL LIKE THIS THAT ONLY ACTUALLY PROVIDES PART OF YOUR SALARY IS REPLACEMENT MOST MINNESOTANS CAN AFFORD TO GO FOR THE ENTIRE TIME. THEY’RE GOING TO GET BACK TO WORK. SO IT IS NOT THERE’S NOT GOING TO BE SITUATIONS HARDLY EVER WHERE SOMEBODY TAKES 24 WEEKS. AND WHEN THOSE SITUATIONS ARISE THOSE ARE SITUATIONS LIKE MINE; THOSE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE TO QUALIFYING EVENTS IN THE SAME YEAR. I ONLY HAVE 2 KIDS I DON’T THINK WE’RE GOING TO ANOTHER. MY WIFE ONLY HAS 2 PARENTS. THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN IT’S NOT THIS WAS THE ONE YEAR WHERE IT MATTERED TO MY FAMILY THAT I WAS ABLE TO TAKE PAID FAMILY LEAVE TWICE. AND MINNESOTANS DESERVE THE OP TUNE IN TO HAVE THAT THIS IS NOT ABUSE IT IS OFFENSIVE TO CHARACTERIZE MINNESOTANS IN THIS WAY EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE BENEFITS THAT I HAD FOR MY FAMILY; THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER.>>THE MEMBER FROM CANIO HIGH REPRESENTATIVE BAKER.>>AND THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR OR MADAM SPEAKER AND THERE FOR SOME UH MAYBE I CAN KIND OF KEEP DETAILING THE FROM REPRESENTATIVE LONG AND ALSO OFFENDED THAT MEANS A SMALL EMPLOYER HAVE TO BE TOLD HOW TO TAKE CARE OF MY EMPLOYEES.>>SO THIS IS JUST AS OFFENSIVE TO OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AROUND ALL OF MINNESOTA. THAT THE STATE OF MINNESOTA KNOWS BEST HOW TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT THIS LAST JANUARY I ACTUALLY SOLD PART OF OUR HOSPITALITY COMPANY. WE SOLD OUR RESTROOM AND AND I WILL TELL YOU HONESTLY I WAS REALLY STRUGGLING AT THE END BECAUSE I WASN’T THERE ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE MY EMPLOYEES WERE WELL TAKEN CARE OF AND I JUST KNEW THAT I I REALLY ENJOYED OUR WORK DOWN HERE BUT THE RULES. THE LABOR MARKET; THE COSTS OF RUNNING A BUSINESS AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER FACTORS JUST HAD ME AT MY AND I COULDN’T DO IT ANY LONGER. I’M REALLY REALLY PROUD OF WHAT MY WIFE AND I DID IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY AND WE STILL HAVE A HOTEL WAS OVER HOSPITALITY BUSINESS. BUT I KNEW I WAS LOSING THE BATTLE BECAUSE WHEN I SIT HERE EVERY WEEK AS A SMALL EMPLOYER AND I HEAR THAT THE SLAP IN THE FACE MEMBERS IN THIS BODY THAT THINK AS AN EMPLOYER. WE ARE BAD. WE DON’T KNOW ENOUGH HOW TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. WE ARE SMART ENOUGH TO COME UP WITH THEIR OWN PLANS AND RECRUITING IDEAS AND OUR PAY SCALES AND OUR PTA PTO TIME AND OUR GIFTS SO WE GIVE OUR LOANS THAT WE GIVE 2 EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY NEED TO BUY SOME NEW TIRES FOR THEIR CAR. I LAST YEAR CO-SIGNED A LOAN FOR A CAR AUTOMOBILE TO AN EMPLOYEE IN GREAT COVER E BECAUSE YOU’VE BEEN DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB. WITH MY MY WITH MY WORK IN THE KITCHEN; I’M SO PROUD OF HIM AND NOW YOU WERE FORCING THINGS ON US BECAUSE WE’RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH WE’RE NOT SMART ENOUGH BECAUSE WE DON’T KNOW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. THIS $2 BILLION TAX ISRAEL. REPRESENT OF LAW MAKES A COMMENT THAT MOST EMPLOYEES WON’T USE IT ALL WELL HE WAS ABLE TO UTILIZE IT FROM HIS EMPLOYER BECAUSE THEY’RE ALREADY DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY BUT IT’S THE EMPLOYERS CHOICE BECAUSE THEY VALUE REPRESENTATIVE LONG AND THE WORK THAT HE DOES AT THE FIRM. WHY ARE WE TELLING US WHY ARE WE TELLING EMPLOYERS AROUND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA THAT’S NOT GOOD ENOUGH AND YOU’RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH. I HEAR THE SMALL RURAL TOWN MARKETS I LIVE JUST OUTSIDE OF WILMER. WE’VE GOT NEW LONDON AND SPICER AT WATER FOR MANY OF THOSE LITTLE COMMUNITIES DON’T HAVE THAT LAST GROCERY STORE THAT SOME COMMUNITIES ARE JUST HANGING ON TO BUY A THREAT. THERE’S A LITTLE HARDWARE STORE IN SPICER I AM SO GRATEFUL. THEY ARE THERE BUT I DON’T THINK THAT THEY CAN DO A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU IN THE SUMMERTIME THEY DO PRETTY WELL BECAUSE PEOPLE COME OUT AND ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL BEACHES OF GREEN LAKE. BUT BOY IS IT A QUIET 8 MONTHS WHEN THEY’RE NOT AROUND ANYMORE IN THIS SMALL LITTLE TOWN OF 2500 PEOPLE. THESE KIND OF TAXES IN THESE KIND OF EMPLOYER GETS ARE ARE JUST GETTING TO THE END OF WHAT WE CAN DO. OUR STATE DOESN’T RECOGNIZE TIPS AS WAGES. THAT IS A REAL SHAME WHEN YOU’RE IN THE IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY. WE’VE GOT TO START RECOGNIZING. THOSE AS INCOME UP THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE PAYING A LOT OF TAXES. PAYROLL TAXES ON THAT INCOME THAT WE’RE NOT RECOGNIZING HERE. AND AGAIN TO START THINKING AGAIN OF A PROGRAM WITH 400 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES TO DO THIS PROGRAM THAT WILL WILL LOOK ANYTHING LIKE WHAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR MIGHT DO IS INSANITY. WE IN LARS OF LOOKING AT US RIGHT IN THE FACE AND WE’RE SCENIC COMING AT US AND THIS KIND OF LEGISLATION MEMBERS IS REALLY MISGUIDED. I’M OFFENDED AS A SMALL BUSINESS GUY I THINK I KNOW WHAT I’M DOING AND IF I DIDN’T OUR EMPLOYEES WOULD LEAVE ME IN A MINUTE BECAUSE THERE’S A BUNCH OF OTHER FOLKS DOING A LOT BETTER THAN I AM SO PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS KIND OF LEGISLATION WE ARE READY. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT TELL EMPLOYERS HOW TO PAY THEIR PEOPLE. WELL WE DO NOT BELONG IN THIS BUSINESS. THANK YOU. THE MEMBER FROM FREE BORN REPRESENTATIVE BENNETT.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND MEMBERS PLEASE BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A MINUTE WHILE I READ A VERY IMPORTANT LIST. CHRISTIANSEN PLUMBING AND HEATING. THOMPSON ELECTRIC. YOU AND BROTHERS. RALLIES HARDWARE. JIM AND DUDE’S PLUMBING AND HEATING. STEAD I’M JEWELERS. CLOTHING CARE CENTER. MARKETING PLUS. SOUTHCENTRAL THAT. TRAILS TRAVEL CENTER. HANSEN TIRE. ERROL PRINTING. GRANITE CREEK MINNESOTA. THE CHILDREN’S CENTER. TAKE YOUR CITY SPORTS. MORRIS FURNITURE. PLYMOUTH SHOE STORE. SHIPS PRO POWER WASH. ADVANCE FAMILY DENTAL. THESE ARE SOME OF THE MANY SMALL BUSINESSES IN ALBERT LEA MY COMMUNITY. AND THERE’S MANY MANY MORE THAT I WAS UNABLE TO LIST. THEY ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF MY LOCAL COMMUNITY. THE OWNERS OF EVERY ONE OF THESE BUSINESSES BECAUSE I COME FROM A SMALL TOWN AND WE KNOW EACH OTHER; I KNOW MANY OF THE EMPLOYEES. I’VE SPOKEN TO THE OWNERS OF THESE BUSINESSES AND MANY OTHERS. AND THEY HAVE TOLD ME THAT THE BURDENSOME ONE SIZE FITS ALL ALL MANDATES. THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS BILL WILL DESTROY THEIR BUSINESSES. IT WILL DESTROY THE LIFE BLOOD OF MY LOCAL COMMUNITY IT WILL JUST AND THE JOB PROVIDERS OF MY LOCAL COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE. MEMBERS THIS CONCERNS ME GREATLY. AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO EMPLOYEES THAT NEED TO FAMILY LEAVE AND NEED THESE WEEK SAAF I THINK THAT’S IMPORTANT BUT WE SHOULD TRUST OUR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUT ALREADY PROVIDING THESE THINGS AND WORKING TOGETHER WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES IS TO COME UP WITH INNOVATIVE IDEAS THAT WORK BOTH FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THE EMPLOYER. THAT’S WHAT WE’RE ALL ABOUT HERE NOT UNIVERSAL ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL MANDATES. UNIVERSAL ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL NEVER WORKS IN MY CLASS SIR; I’M NEVER WORKED IN MY SCHOOL. IT DOESN’T WORK FOR BUSINESSES AND IT DOESN’T WORK FOR OUR STATE. LET’S HAVE COMMON SENSE HERE. THIS ISN’T THE HALFWAY THIS BILL IS NOT THE PATHWAY TO BETTER EMPLOYMENT FOR MINNESOTA AT ITS THE PATHWAY TO THE DEATH OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES IN MINNESOTA. THANK YOU. THE MEMBER FROM RICE REPRESENTATIVE LIPPERT.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER MEMBERS. ALL MINNESOTANS DESERVE THE TIME THEY NEED TO CARE FOR THEIR LOVED ONES. AND THAT’S NOT FAIR. IT ALSO PUTS MANY MINNESOTANS IN DANGEROUS SITUATIONS. NELSON DOESN’T REFLECT THE BEST OF WHO WE ARE AS A STATE AS A STATE WE CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER. IN MY WORK AS A PASTOR I SEE THAT I SEE I SEE IN COMMUNITIES. RALLY AROUND FAMILIES IN CRISIS AND IT’S BEAUTIFUL. I’VE ALSO SEEN. THE DANGEROUS SITUATIONS OF FAMILIES ARE IN AS THEY’RE PUSHED TO THE BRINK. WHEN THEY DON’T HAVE THE TIME THEY NEED. TO CARE FOR THEIR LOVED ONES WERE SICK AND THEY’RE TRYING TO HOLD EVERYTHING TOGETHER INCLUDING KEEPING THEIR JOB. SO HERE’S ONE STORY FROM THE CONGREGATION I SERVED IN NORTHFIELD. PARENTS LEARNED THAT THEIR TEENAGE SON HAS CANCER. TURNS YOUR LIFE UPSIDE DOWN IN A SERIOUS. SO IMMEDIATELY THEY’RE GETTING THEIR SON TO CHEMOTHERAPY TREATMENT AND THEIR LIFE NOW. IS GETTING THEIR SON TO AND FROM TREATMENT. TRYING TO KEEP LIFE AS NORMAL AS IT CAN POSSIBLY BE FOR THEIR OTHER CHILDREN. AND THEN FIGURING OUT WHICH ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO STAY HOME WITH THEIR SON IN BETWEEN TREATMENTS EVERY DAY BECAUSE HE’S SICK. HE NEEDS CARE. BUT NEITHER OF THEM HAS PAID TIME OFF. CAN GET DAYS OFF; BUT THEY’RE NOT PAIN. HE CAN QUALIFY FOR FMLA FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE ACT BUT AS THEIR LAST RESORT BECAUSE THEY NEED HIS WAGES. DON’T WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE AND THE SAME TIME THE MOM WHO’S A NURSE. WHO IS RESEARCHING THIS PARTICULAR CANCER TALKING WITH HER DOCTOR WITH THE SUNS DOCTOR KNOWS EVERYTHING THAT’S GOING ON WITH THEIR SON ALL THE CARE HE NEEDS. SHE’S RECENTLY CHANGE JOBS. SO SHE DOESN’T QUALIFY FOR FMLA AT ALL AND SHE HAS AN ACCRUED TIME. SO SHE DOESN’T HAVE TIME OFF. BUT THERE ARE DAYS WHEN SHE HAS TO TAKE TIME BECAUSE IT’S NEEDED AT HOME AND SO SHE’S LITERALLY WORRIED ABOUT LOSING HER JOB. WHEN OUR SON HAS CANCER. IT’S ENOUGH FOR ANY PARENTS TO BE FIGHTING CANCER WITH THEIR SON. THEY DON’T NEED TO BE FIGHTING TO KEEP A JOB AT THE SAME TIME. THEY DON’T NEED TO BE FIGHTING FOR THEIR ECONOMIC SECURITY. RELIGIOUS LEADERS SEE THESE SORTS OF SITUATIONS ALL THE TIME. AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN RURAL COMMUNITIES. EVEN MORE PERHAPS. FOR SCHOOL RELEASED A STUDY THAT SOME REFERENCED A COUPLE TIMES TODAY. CAREGIVING NEEDS IN RURAL COMMUNITIES. ARE EVEN GREATER THAN IN CITIES BECAUSE THERE’S A LACK OF ACCESS TO ELDER CARE CHILD CARE AND TAKES LONGER TO GET TO THE DOCTOR AND BACK TO THE HOSPITAL MAC THERE ARE MORE AND MORE SMALL EMPLOYERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO OFFER PAID FAMILY LEAVE BENEFITS TO THEIR EMPLOYEES BUT THEY CAN’T AFFORD IT LIKE THE LARGER CORPORATIONS IN THE CITY’S DO. AND SO THESE ARE THE THINGS WE SEE. WHERE ONE HAS EARLY ONSET DEMENTIA. AND THE OTHERS CARING FOR HER HUSBAND. AND ORGANIZING THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. TO KEEP UNSAFE. HAS TO KEEP HER JOB AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THEY NEED THAT MONEY AND THE WEIGHT OF IT ALL IS SO HEAVY THAT SHE’S DEPRESSED BECAUSE SHE FEELS TRAPPED AND THEN WE ARE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF BOTH OF THEM. THESE ARE THE THINGS WE SEE WE SEE ADULT CHILDREN IN THE SANDWICH GENERATION CARING FOR AGING PARENTS AND CARING FOR THEIR CHILDREN. AND THEN THERE’S A CRISIS THAT HAPPENS AND IT’S COMING AT THEM FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS AND THEY NEED TO KEEP THEIR JOBS AND THEY DON’T KNOW WHERE TO TURN. YOUNG PARENTS. WITH TODDLERS AND NEWBORN AND AND THERE’S A HEALTH CRISIS AND THEY DON’T HAVE TIME. PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE. HONORS THE FACT THAT WE’RE HUMAN BEINGS. WE’RE WIRED FOR RELATIONSHIP AND CONNECTION. WE NEED TO BE THERE WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS WHEN THEY NEED US MOST WE FEEL THAT IN OUR BONES. WE NEED TO PASS THIS BILL. FOR THE PEOPLE I KNOW. FOR THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW IN YOUR DISTRICT. FOR FAMILIES ALL ACROSS THE STATE. I URGE A GREEN VOTE. THE MEMBER FROM RIGHT REPRESENTATIVE LOOSE ARROW. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER I AM SUPER EXCITED. NOT FOR THIS BILL. BUT BECAUSE WE’RE GETTING INTO SPRING HERE VERY SHORTLY; I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO A NICE WARM. MINNESOTA SPRING AND SUMMER. I HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF CONCERNS PERTAINING TO THIS BILL AND I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.>>THAT I’M HOPING THE BILL AUTHOR WILL YIELD FOR A SERIES OF QUESTIONS. SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE THE CERRO THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER; THE AND REPRESENT HELPERS IN THE FIRST QUESTION IS BUT ACCORDING TO SECTION 6 OF THE BILL. AUTHORIZATION FOR THE NEW PROGRAM BEGINS JULY FIRST 2020. SUCH JUST A FEW MONTHS FROM NOW. AND THEN ACCORDING TO SECTION 18 OF THE BILL PREMIUM COLLECTION AS WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL MEMBERS HERE. WE’LL BEGIN. JANUARY FIRST 2022. SO FROM JULY FIRST 2020 TO JANUARY FIRST 2022 HIS 18 MONTHS. WE’RE GOING TO GO FROM NO SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. TO A BRAND-NEW TECHNOLOGY SYSTEM BRAND NEW. IF YOUR BRAND NEW EMPLOYEES. IN 18 MONTHS AT LEAST TO BEGIN COLLECTION BECAUSE THAT MONEY HAS TO BE TRACKED AND IT HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE. ACCORDING TO SECTION 8 OF THE BILL THE NEW PRAGUE THE NEW PROGRAM WILL BEGIN PROCESSING APPLICATIONS JULY FIRST 2023. SO THAT’S 18 MONTHS. AFTER THE COLLECTION OF PREMIUM AND THEN 36 MONTHS FROM JULY 1ST OF THIS YEAR. SO 36 MONTHS FROM JULY 1ST OF THIS YEAR IS WHEN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM MUST BE UP AND RUNNING LIFE. SO MADAM SPEAKER IN MEMBERS. WHEN IT COMES TO TECH KNOWLEDGE E DEVELOPMENT; NOT JUST INFRASTRUCTURE YOUR SERVERS ROUTERS SWITCHES THINGS LIKE THAT; BUT THIS IS. IN ADDITION TO THE HARDWARE INFRASTRUCTURE; THIS IS SOFTWARE THAT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED. AND IT HAS TO BE 100% GO LIVE IN 36 MONTHS FROM. THE DATE THAT IT’S ENACTED WHICH IS JULY FIRST 2020. SO IN ORDER FOR IT TO GO LIVE IN 36 MONTHS. THERE HAS TO BE. AND AT MINIMUM FOR A SYSTEM THIS COMPLEX AND THE ABSOLUTE BARE BONES MINIMUM. 12 MONTHS OF TESTING. USER ACCEPTANCE TESTING. IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE USER ACCEPTANCE TESTING THERE MUST BE A BETA VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE THAT’S UP AND RUNNING. NOW WE’RE DOWN TO 2 YEARS SO 24 MONTHS. THE ENTIRE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE CREATED. AND WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN THIS STATE UNFORTUNATELY OF SPENDING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WHEN I SAY SPENDING WHAT I MEAN IS SQUANDERING TRYING TO DEVELOP TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS THAT DON’T WORK. ONE EXAMPLE; OBVIOUSLY THE MOST RECENT MEMOIRS. THAT WAS A DECADE IN THE MAKING A DECADE THEY STILL CAN GET IT RIGHT AND THAT SYSTEM MEMBERS IS LESS COMPLEX THAN THE SYSTEM BEING PROPOSED IN THIS BILL. SO MY MY FIRST OF A SERIES OF QUESTIONS; MADAM SPEAKER TO REPRESENT HOW PERSON IS WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT THE BETA VERSION WE’LL BE READY FOR USER ACCEPTANCE TESTING REPRESENTATIVE HALVERSON.>>MADAM SPEAKER; THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND REPRESENTATIVE LISTS I I’M RICK ALL THAT HAD CONVERSATIONS THE ON THE FLOOR LAST YEAR AND I RECALL THAT WE HAD DETAILED CONVERSATIONS AMONG MEMBERS IN COMMITTEE AS WELL THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE’VE HAD DEDE THE THE THE GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT’S GOING TO BE HELPING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER ALONG WITH DOLLY AND A B AND OTHERS ARE THAT THE THEIR PRAGUE PREDICTIONS FOR WHAT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE ARE ACTUALLY GETTING STRONGER AND MORE PREDICTABLE BECAUSE THERE IS MORE UM THE TECHNOLOGY THAT’S AVAILABLE AND IN USE THAT WE CAN USE IN WHERE WE’RE BUILDING THIS IN IN TANDEM WITH IN IT WITH THE EU I WITH UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE AND WE HAVE 80 YEARS OF HISTORY IN CREATING A BENEFITS PROGRAM AND PAYING OUT THAT BENEFITS PROGRAM.>>REPRESENTATIVE LOU SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER; I DON’T KNOW IF I SHOULD LAUGH OR CRY RIGHT NOW. REPRESENT HIM AS A MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTED COVERS AND JUST RIGHT UP. LAST YEAR’S CONVERSATIONS. LET ME REMIND THE BODY HOW LAST YEAR’S CONVERSATIONS THAT I WAS ASKING ENDED. I WAS ASKING A SERIES OF QUESTIONS AND ONE AFTER THE OTHER COULD BE ANSWERED THEY’RE THAT EVENTUALLY. THE MAJORITY LEADER. MADE A FRIVOLOUS POINT OF ORDER IN ORDER TO SHUT ME UP. AND THEN THAT WERE WITH THEN YOU HAD THE LEADERS OF THE CAUCUS GO INTO THE BACK ROOM TALK ABOUT A HALF HOUR AND WE CAME BACK IN THE ON THE FLOOR IT ENDED BECAUSE THE MAJORITY LEADER IN THE MAJORITY PARTY COULD NOT STAND THE QUESTIONS THEY THREW IN THE WHITEHALL BECAUSE THEY REALIZE THIS IS AN ABYSMAL BILL. AND SO NO WE DIDN’T GET INTO ANY OF THIS MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENT A COVER SENT IT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND YOU JUST ANSWER IT NOW. 80 YEARS OF HISTORY. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE’RE SPEAKING ABOUT HERE. THIS IS THE NEW TECHNOLOGY SYSTEM MEMOIRS WAS ONLY AS RECENT AS 2 YEARS AGO LAST YEAR ACTUALLY SO HOW MUCH TECHNOLOGY; NEW TECHNOLOGY HAS HAPPENED SINCE MEMOIRS COMPLETE FAILURE; AND WHAT YOU’RE PROPOSING TO BEGIN BUILDING IN JULY 1ST OF THIS YEAR. REBEL THE TORY NEW TECHNOLOGY PIXIE DUST. THAT’S GOING TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN MEMBERS. MADAME SPEAKER MEMBERS. PHYSICALLY HIM POSSIBLE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. TO CREATE A BRAND NEW SYSTEM TO WRITE BRAND NEW SOFTWARE. IN APPROXIMATELY A YEAR FROM NOW IN ORDER TO BEGIN WELL 18 MONTHS AT A MINIMUM TO BEGIN COLLECTION. WHICH MEANS PRIOR TO 18 MONTHS YOU NEED TO HAVE A TESTING IN THERE IT IS PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO DO WHAT THIS BILL IS SEEKING TO DO. WE THIS BILL IS GOING TO RECREATE THE PROBLEMS. MADAM SPEAKER THAT WE HAD WITH MEN LARS MINNESOTANS ARE FURIOUS. AT THE OVER A MILLION WASTED ON THAT SYSTEM. THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO FROM A TECHNOLOGY PERSPECTIVE. BENNETT SPEAKER WOULD REPRESENT A TELEVISION DEAL FOR THE QUESTION SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE TO SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTED HELGERSON. SECTION 7. SUBDIVISION 6 READS AN INDIVIDUAL WHOSE MEDICAL RECORDS ARE NECESSARY TO DETERMINE ELIGIBILITY FOR BENEFITS UNDER THIS CHAPTER MUST SIGN AND 80 LEGALLY EFFECTIVE WAIVER AUTHORIZING THE RELEASE OF MEDICAL OR OTHER RECORDS TO THE DEPARTMENT. OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY. MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENT OF HALLIBURTON. MEDICAL DATA BE TRANSMITTED TO DOLLY. WHAT IS THE INTERFACE. REPRESENTATIVE PAUL PERCENT. THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTATIVE LISTS OR.>>PROCESS IS THE SAME AS IT IS FOR UNPAID LEAVE CURRENTLY. REPRESENTATIVE DO SO.>>WHAT WOULD BE AYE CHAIR YIELD FROM THE QUESTION. SHE WILLIAM THE REPRESENTATIVE WHO SARAH THANK YOU AS WE CAN REPRESENT HELP US AND COULD YOU PLEASE AND LIGHTNING WITH THE CURRENT PROCESSES.>>REPRESENTATIVE PAUL PERCENT AND THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND REPRESENTATIVE LET’S ERR IN AND HIM PLOY OF THAT THEY HELPED US WRITE THIS LANGUAGE SO THAT IT’S THE SAME IN FACT EMPLOYERS WHEN WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT HOW TO CREATE THIS PROGRAM; ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID HIS MODEL IT OFF AS MUCH AS CURRENTLY EXISTS SO THE DEFINITIONS THAT ARE IN HERE CURRENTLY EXIST IN STATE LAW THE PROCESS IS FOR.>>CHANGE EXCHANGING INFORMATION. CURRENTLY UGLY EXIST IN IN FEDERAL AND STATE LAW BECAUSE WE’VE HAD UNPAID LEAVE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE FOR SO LONG THE SYSTEMS ARE IN PLACE BECAUSE THE PROCESS IS AT THE SAME. REPRESENTATIVE TO SARAH WITH THE BILL AFTER YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SHE WILLIAM REPRESENTATIVE LOU SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND REPRESENT COVERED SON; THE CURRENT PROCESS EASE FOR UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE IS THAT INVOLVE MEDICAL RECORDS BEING UPLOADED. REPRESENTATIVE PAUL MADAM A SPEAKER OR REPRESENTATIVE LOU THERE IS EXCHANGE OF A DATE WHEN IT COMES TO YOU I; BUT IT’S ALSO TRUE FOR OF FEDERAL AND STATE PAID FAMILY LEAVE ALL OF THE PROGRAMS HAVE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HAS A SPECIFIC HALL EVENT IN ORDER TO UTILIZE THE PROGRAMS. SO IT’S CONSISTENT. REPRESENTATIVE LOOSE ARROW WITH THE BILL I FROM THE QUESTION. REPRESENTATIVE TO SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTED CULVERTS AND.>>WILL THIS NEW SYSTEM REQUIRE ON THE TRAILS.>>REPRESENTATIVE PAUL MERSON MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTATIVE THE CENTER OF THE SYSTEM WILL JUST PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 20 YEARS WHEN IT COMES TO CREATING A QUALIFYING MEDICAL EVENT. REPRESENTATIVE TO SARAH WITH A BILL OUT TO YOU FROM THE QUESTION SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE LOU SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER DOES THE CURRENT SYSTEM. HE WAS OUT OF TRAILS. REPRESENTATIVE PAUL MERSON. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND UM I THINK THAT IT’S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE. GONE THROUGH 10 COMMITTEES ON THIS AND THAT WE HAVE ENGAGED THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF A. EMPLOYMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT; THE MINNESOTA EMPLOYMENT OF EMPLOYEE RELATIONS OR EXCUSE ME OF LABOR AND THIS BILL. TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL EMPLOYERS AND ALL EMPLOYEES. ARE FUNCTIONING UNDER THE SAME SYSTEM THAT THEY’RE CURRENTLY FUNCTIONING ON NOTHING IS CHANGING FROM THE WAY WE EXCHANGED A THAT IN UNPAID FAMILY LEAVE TO PAID FAMILY LEAVE.>>REPRESENTATIVE LOU SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER; LET ME REMIND MEMBERS. HOW THE COMMITTEE PROCESS WORKED LAST YEAR. THE COMMITTEE TASKED WITH REVIEWING AND ENSURING DATA PROTECTION IS THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. AND FOR THOSE MEMBERS THAT SIT ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WILL REMEMBER THIS. THOSE WHO WERE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE FIRST TIME INFORMATION. I HAD A SERIES OF CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS FOR THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE I KNOW THAT THIS BODY IS SHOCKED. NOW FOR THE COMMITTEE THIS QUESTIONS WERE FOR THE BILL AUTHOR IN JUDICIARY GUESS WHAT HAPPENED. AFTER QUESTION 3.>>JUST LIKE THE MAJORITY LEADER DID ON THE HOUSE FLOOR I WAS CUT OFF. I CAN ONLY ASK 3 QUESTIONS AND YOU DON’T MY COMMENTS THAT A SPEAKER WAS AT THE END OF THAT COMMITTEE HEARING ON HOUSE FILE 5 I SAID I GUESS I HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE MISTER CHAIR BUT TO SAVE THE BALANCE OF MY QUESTIONS FOR THE HOUSE FLOOR. SO I GOT TO THE HOUSE FLOOR THAT WAS CUT OFF AGAIN. SO MADAM SPEAKER AS WE’VE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES NOW THIS BILL HAS BEEN THROUGH 10 COMMITTEES THE COMMITTEES HAVE BEEN A CHARADE. A CHARADE. MEMBERS NOT BEING ABLE TO ASK THE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. SO YOU WENT THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF GOING THROUGH COMMITTEE. BUT THERE WAS NO INTEREST IN FEEDBACK TO PROTECT THE DATA AT LEAST IN THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THE OTHER NIGHT COMMITTEES I SUSPECT THEY VERY SIMILAR. OUTCOME HAPPENED. SO WE TALK ABOUT ARRIVED JUST HEARD AGAIN THE EXISTING SYSTEM THE EXISTING SYSTEM I’VE HEARD THAT SEVERAL TIMES NOW THIS IS A NEW SYSTEM. MADAM SPEAKER; SOME EXISTING SYSTEM; THIS IS A BRAND-NEW TECHNOLOGY SYSTEM. AND SO WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION OF AUDIT SALES ARE GOING TO BE ENACTED OR ENABLED. THE ANSWER WAS IT’S BEEN THROUGH 10 COMMITTEES THEN ANSWER THE QUESTION. THIS SYSTEM. BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING IS GOING TO INCLUDE NAMES FIRST AS A MIDDLE NAME LAST NAME STREET ADDRESS PROBABLY DRIVER’S LICENSE NUMBER SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER BANK ACCOUNTS. I DON’T HAVE ALL THE CHECKS ARE GOING TO BE CUT PHYSICAL OF IS GOING TO BE ELECT CHRONIC FUNDS TRANSFER SO I PRESUME BANK ACCOUNTS. MEDICAL RECORDS ARE GOING TO BE UPLOADED SITES. PH I ANOTHER P I. SO THIS IS GOING TO CONTAIN NEARLY EVERY DAY THAT ELEMENT. THAT’S NECESSARY FOR IDENTITY THEFT AND WELL BEYOND. AND THEN A SPEAKER. THE BILL EITHER CAN EVEN ASK THE QUESTION OR ANSWER THE QUESTION OF WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF TRAILS ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE IN A BRAND NEW SYSTEM; RIPE FOR PLUNDER RIEN. AND WE DON’T KNOW IF IT’S SECURE BECAUSE I WAS CUT OFF IN COMMITTEE LAST YEAR. I WAS CUT OFF LAST YEAR ON THE HOUSE FLOOR AND I CAN’T GET AN ANSWER NOW. SO WHEN YOU HAVE A DATABASE A REPOSITORY OF EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION FOR IDENTITY THEFT YOU THINK IT’S GOING TO BE A TARGET ABSOLUTELY. LINE 17 1 OF THE BILL READS. THE COMMISSIONER MAY ADOPT RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR HEARINGS. THE RULES NEED NOT CONFORM TO COME COMMON LAW OR ITS STATUTORY RULES OF EVIDENCE OR OTHER TECHNICAL RULES OF PROCEDURE. WHY ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE COMMISSION WE’RE GOING TO EMPOWER THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH TO CREATE RULES THAT EMPLOYERS. EMPLOYEES RESIDENTS OF MINNESOTA ARE BOUND TO AND THAT THESE RULES DON’T NEED TO CONFORM THE COMMON LAW. STATUTORY RULES OF EVIDENCE AND TECHNICAL RULES OF PROCEDURE THERE IT SEEMS LIKE THIS SYSTEM IT’S GOING TO BE OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM. WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS YOU KNOW WHY BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY AND WE’VE SEEN WHAT NO ACCOUNTABILITY IN STATE GOVERNMENT PRODUCES DHS. MADAM SPEAKER WHO IS BAN ACCOUNT HELD ACCOUNTABLE IN DHS. 10’S OF MILLIONS AFTER 10’S OF MILLIONS AFTER 10’S OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SQUANDERED WHO’S BEEN ACCOUNTABLE. ADMISSIONS TO BREAKING THE LAW. SO THEY WANT TO CREATE A SYSTEM OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM. LINE 17.8 READS. DECISIONS OF A BENEFIT JUDGE ARE NOT. SO A BENEFIT JUDGE WELL. RULE ON SOMETHING AND THEN A PRECEDENT IS NOT FORMED. BUT ISN’T HOW IT WORKS AND THE JUDICIAL BRANCH. IS VERY IMPORTANT. IT IS THE BASIS. OF THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. SO IN OTHER WORDS ARE GOING TO HAVE NEW RULES EVERY TIME A BENEFIT JUDGE JUDGES. LINE 1714. REGARDING BENEFIT JUDGES. ONLY EMPLOYEES OF THE DEPARTMENT WHO ARE ATTORNEYS LICENSE TO PRACTICE LAW IN MINNESOTA MAY SERVE AS A CHIEF BENEFIT JUDGES; SENIOR BENEFIT JUDGE. WHO ARE SUPERVISORS OR BENNETT; THE JUDGES. SO THE BENEFIT JUDGES AREN’T EVEN MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIAL BRANCH. THE BENEFIT OF JUDGES ARE MEMBERS OF THE THE BRANCH WHO ARE EMPLOYEES. SO HERE YOU HAVE THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AND MAKING THAT JUDICIAL DECISIONS. IS THAT CAUSE FOR CONCERN. YOU CAN EVEN HAVE A JUDGE DECIDE. YOU HAVE AN ATTORNEY WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH DOES THAT VIOLATE. MADAM SPEAKER DOES THAT VIOLATE. SEPARATION OF POWERS. EMPLOYEES OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH MAKING JUDICIAL DECISIONS IF NOT FOR WANTING TO BE OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM. LINE 17.1 2 READS. ANY FINAL DETERMINATION REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION MAY BE APPEALED DIRECTLY TO THE MINNESOTA COURT OF APPEALS. SO WE’RE COMPLETELY BYPASSING THE DISTRICT COURT LEVEL. SYSTEM BEING CREATED TO BE OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM. AN ACCOUNTABLE MEMBERS. LINE 18.9. ANY CLAIM FOR BENEFITS MUST BE BASED ON A SINGLE QUALIFYING EVENT OF AT LEAST 7 CALENDAR DAYS. MADAM SPEAKER WOULD BE A LOT FOR YIELD.>>SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE LOU SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND REPRESENT A PERSON. ANY CLAIM FOR BENEFITS MUST BE BASED ON A SINGLE QUALIFYING EVENT OF AT LEAST 7 CALENDAR DAYS. BENEFITS MAY BE PAID FOR A MINIMUM INCREMENTS OF ONE DAY THE MINIMUM IN FRONT OF ONE DAY MAY CONSIST OF MULTIPLE NOT CONSECUTIVE PORTIONS OF A DATE ONLY 8 HOURS. CAN YOU HELP INTERPRET WHAT THAT MEANS. REPRESENTATIVE FATHER SON.>>BUT MADAM SPEAKER; YOU BET I CAN THE REASON THAT IT IS WRITTEN THIS WAY IS BECAUSE THAT THIS IS NOT VACATION. THIS IS NOT.>>IT’S TIME OFF TO HAVE THE FLU LIKE I HAD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO; THIS IS TIME OFF FOR A SERIOUS QUALIFYING MEDICAL EVENTS. AND THE APPLICANT TO HAVE HAVE A ESTABLISH THIS IS SERIOUS QUALIFYING MEDICAL EVENT TO NOTIFY THEIR EMPLOYER.>>THE REASON THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE THIS LEAVE A DAY OF IT TIME IS FOR A REALLY SPECIFIC REASON IT’S BECAUSE SOME TIMES YOU NEED A LONG-TERM TREATMENT A LOT EMPLOYERS HAVE EMPLOYEE USE WHO NEED LONG-TERM TREATMENTS. IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF A DISEASE THEY MIGHT NEED DIALYSIS TREATMENT THEY MIGHT NEED CHEMOTHERAPY TREATMENT THEY MIGHT NEED. YOU KNOW ANY NUMBER OF MEDICAL TREATMENTS THAT ARE FOR A MATTER OF MONTHS. OR OR FOREVER; AND SO IF THE EMPLOYED IS NOT ONE OF DOZENS PAID LEAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM AND THEY NEED TO LEAVE WORK IN ORDER TO HAVE THESE TREATMENTS DONE. THEY WILL BE COVERED UNDER THE PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SERIOUS QUALIFYING MEDICAL EVENT THAT LAST MORE THAN 7 DAYS AND THEY ARE GETTING THE APPROPRIATE TREATMENT FOR SO IT’S ABOUT CARE AND IT’S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT EMPLOYEES WHO ARE GOING UNDERGOING SOMETHING SO TERRIBLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACCESS APPROPRIATE LEAVE GET THEIR WAGES REPLACED AND KEEP WORKING AND FOR THEIR EMPLOYERS. REPRESENTATIVE TO SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER WITH THE BILL I FEEL FOR THE QUESTION.>>SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE LOU SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER WELL REPRESENTATIVE COVERAGE SINKING PLEASE RECTIFY YOUR EXPLANATION OF A DAY TIME OFF WITH LINE 18 POINT TO IT AS AN EMPLOYEE HAS THE RIGHT TO LEAVE FROM EMPLOYMENT FOR ANY DAY OR PORTION OF THE DAY. CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND RECTIFY WHAT YOU JUST SAID; BUT THEN HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE SMALLEST UNIT OF TIME IN APPLICANTS CAN TAKE LEAVE FROM AN EMPLOYER.>>REPRESENTATIVE PAUL MERSON MADAM SPEAKER.>>EFFECTIVE SAYS.>>8 HOUR DAY IS NOT ALWAYS SOME OF THESE WORK DAY SOMETIMES HE WILL HAVE 10 HOUR DAYS SO IT MIGHT BE A A PARTIAL DAY. REPRESENTATIVE LOU SARAH WITH THE BILL OUT TO YOU. SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE LOOSE THEIR MADAM SPEAKER UNDER THIS BILL LANGUAGE THAT I JUST READ WHAT IS THE MINIMUM UNIT OF TIME.>>THAT AN EMPLOYER OR THE EMPLOYEE; I’M SORRY AN EMPLOYEE COULD BURDEN AN EMPLOYER TO TAKE A TIME OF PUT THE TAKEOFF HALF HOUR. OR AN HOUR OR WHAT IS THE SMALLEST UNIT OF TIME. REPRESENTATIVE PAUL HER SON.>>MADAME SPEAKER AND REPRESENTATIVE LISTS IT WAS AH I THINK CLEAR IN IN WHAT YOU READ THAT’S AND AND YOU MAY READ IT AGAIN BECAUSE I’M IT’S IT’S CLEAR THAT READING THIS THOUGH LINE BY LINE IS IS IS WHAT WE’RE GOING TO DO. BUT THE FACT IS IS IT’S VERY CLEAR IN THE LANGUAGE THAT HE READ.>>REPRESENTATIVE LOU SARAO OK THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER; AH WELL; I’LL JUST READ IT AGAIN SO AN EMPLOYEE HAS THE RIGHT TO LEAVE FROM EMPLOYMENT FOR ANY DAY OR PORTION OF THE DAY MEMBERS. THAT NEEDS TO REPLACE AN EMPLOYEE WHO WAS ABSENT. THAT IN AND OF ITSELF CAN BE A HARDSHIP DEPENDING ON THE INDUSTRY DEPENDING ON THE EMPLOYEE I THINK WE WOULD ALL AGREE. BUT WHEN THERE’S NO BOUNDARY HERE AND WHAT THE MINIMUM UNIT OF TIME IS. IMAGINE AN IMP BOY THAT SAYS I NEED TO TAKE THIS HOUR OFF IN THE MORNING AND THEN THIS HOUR OFF IN THAT MY AFTERNOON PORTION OF MIGHT 8 OR 10 HOUR SHIFT. RIGHT OR I NEED TO TAKE JUST THIS HOUR OFF. AND THESE 3 CONSECUTIVE DAYS. DEPEND ON THE INDUSTRY THAT CAN BE DIFFICULT. NICE TO BE A TRUCK DRIVER. SO WHAT IF I SAID TO MY EMPLOYER SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF MY ROAD. I NEED TO TAKE 2 HOUR BLOCK THE TIME OFF. AND NOW IT’S YORK AN EMPLOYER TO FIND MY REPLACEMENT; I’M PARKED MY TRUCK ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. I WANT TO TAKE AN UBER TO WHEREVER I’M GONE. MY TRUCK SITTING THERE AND MY ROUTE IS NOT GETTING COMPLETED. WHAT DOES THE EMPLOYER SUPPOSED TO DO IS THERE ANY PROTECTIONS FOR THE EMPLOYER THAT A SPEAKER IS EARNING RECOGNITION WHATSOEVER OF THE HARDSHIP THE BIRDIE THAT THIS IS GOING TO PUT ON OUR JOB CREATORS. OF COURSE THERE IS NO RECOGNITION OF THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT LIKE BUSINESSES. THEY THINK WEALTH AND PROSPERITY; IT’S PROOF CREATED OUT OF FINNAIR NOT TO THE SACRIFICE. NOT THROUGH THE HARD WORK OF ENTREPRENEURS. WHO FOR JUST GETS CREATE OUT OF THIN AIR SO WE’RE JUST GONNA PUT MORE MANDATES ON EXPECTING THEM TO ACCOMMODATE. OH THEY’RE SO MUCH MORE. LINE BY LINE YOU KNOW I WISH I COULD GO LINE BY LINE BUT TO BE HONEST. WHICH THIS BILL COMPLETELY IGNORES PRECEDENT IN THIS BODY IS TO CUT OFF MEMBERS. TO CUT OFF MEMBERS. IT HAPPENS FROM LOWEST LEVEL TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE CUTTING OFF MEMBERS WITH FRIVOLOUS POINTS OF ORDER. AND SO AS I WAS PREPARING MY QUESTIONS IN THE BACK OF MY MIND; I’M THINKING HOW IS THE MAJORITY PARTY GOING TO ABUSE THEIR POWER AGAIN ARE THEY GOING TO DO IT TO ME AGAIN THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO ANSWER THE TOUGH QUESTIONS. AND SO I HAD TO LIMIT MY QUESTIONS. BECAUSE OF THE ABUSE THAT I SUFFERED LAST YEAR; THE HANDS OF THE DEMOCRAT MAJORITY. LINE 9.3 READS. AN INDIVIDUAL IS A MEMBER OF THE IMP TOYS HOUSEHOLD IF THE INDIVIDUAL HAS RESIDED AT THE SAME ADDRESS OF THE EMPLOYEE FOR AT LEAST ONE HERE. THEY DON’T HAVE TO BE RELATED. SOME MEMBERS AS A LANDLORD I HAVE A HOUSE RIGHT NOW ONE OF MY PROPERTIES; ONE OF THE RENTAL PROPERTIES HAS 3 PEOPLE IN IT. THERE’S 3 TENANTS THEY’RE ALL SHARING THEIR COMPLETELY UNRELATED THEIR FRIENDS FROM HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE OR SOMETHING. AND UNDER THIS LANGUAGE WHAT I JUST READ AN INDIVIDUAL IS A MEMBER OF THE EMPLOYEES HOUSEHOLD IF THE INDIVIDUAL HAS RESIGNED AT THE SAME ADDRESS AS THE EMPLOYEE FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR. SO THESE 3 ROOMMATES COMPLETELY UNRELATED. THEY HAVE BEEN MY TENANTS NOW FOR 3 MADAM SPEAKER; THEY ARE FUN HASTA TENANTS THEY ALWAYS PAY ON TIME. AND I REALLY ENJOY THESE TENANTS BUT THEY’RE NOT RELATED. BUT UNDER THIS YOU HAVE UNRELATED PEOPLE THAT CAN BURN THEIR EMPLOYER BY CLAIMING THEM AS FAMILY MEMBERS. WHEN THEY’RE CLEARLY NOT. MADAM SPEAKER. 11.3 OF THE BILL READS. ONE OF THE QUALIFYING EVENTS. PREGNANCY MEANS PRENATAL CARE OR INCAPACITY DUE TO PREGNANCY OR THE RECOVERY FROM CHILDBIRTH STILLBIRTH MISCARRIAGE. RELATED HEALTH CONDITIONS. AND MADAM SPEAKER AS WE LEARNED LAST YEAR THERE’S AN AGENDA BY THE MAJORITY PARTY. TO EXPAND. AND SO WHAT DOES IN THE SENTENCE RELATING TO PREGNANCY. RELATED HEALTH CONDITIONS MEAN. DOES THAT INCLUDE ABORTION. MADAM SPEAKER AN EMPLOYEE TAKE TIME OFF FROM THEIR EMPLOYER TO GET AN ABORTION. IS THAT EMPLOYER. DESPITE THEIR STRONGLY HELD RELIGIOUS VIEWPOINTS. AGAINST ABORTION. TO PAY FOR THAT EMPLOYEE THROUGH THIS PROGRAM TO TAKE TIME OFF TO GET AN ABORTION. I THINK HOBBY LOBBY. HOBBY LOBBY HAD TO GO TO COURT. BECAUSE THE DEMOCRAT PARTY WANTED TO RUN ROUGH SHOT RIGHT OVER RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. I’M VERY THANKFUL FOR HOBBY LOBBY AND I’M VERY THANKFUL THAT THE SUPREME COURT THE US SUPREME COURT RULED IN THEIR FAVOR. BUT IN THIS BILL. THE LANGUAGE TO ME IS CERTAINLY COULD INCLUDE ABORTION. AS AN EMPLOYER SUCH AS HOBBY LOBBY WOULD THEN BE REQUIRED. TO ALLOW THAT HOT THE EMPLOYEE TIME OFF TO GET AN ABORTION MEMBERS THAT IS UNBELIEVABLY A VIOLATION OF RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. BUT WE KNOW THAT’S THE PRECEDENT. OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY TO VIOLATE RELIGIOUS LIBERTY TO STOP IT OUT WHEREVER THEY SEE IT. A HIGH OF SO MANY MORE QUESTIONS AND A SPEAKER. I APPRECIATE. THE TIME TO SPEAK AND I APPRECIATE MADAM SPEAKER NOT BE CUT OFF THIS TIME. BUT I DON’T APPRECIATE IS A LACK OF ANSWERS. I DON’T APPRECIATE THE HARDSHIP THAT THIS IS GOING TO INFLICT ON BUSINESSES ALL ACROSS THE STATE. MEMBERS PLEASE VOTE NO THANK YOU.>>THE MEMBER FROM CARVER REPRESENTATIVE NASH.>>WELL THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER MEMBERS I THOUGHT I’D TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF I 2 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT FIRST OF ALL ALL AND IF SURE HOW HER SON WOULD YIELD A QUESTION. SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE NASH; THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER CHAIR HOWARD ZINN WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS TO GET THE SOFTWARE UP AND RUNNING IN THE PAST WE TALKED ABOUT IT SOME IN STATE GOVERNMENT FINANCE LAST YEAR. CAN YOU TELL ME IF THIS BILL WERE TO BECOME LAW. WHAT WHAT IS THE DEPARTMENT’S ESTIMATE ON HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO CONTRACT THIS PIECE OF SOFTWARE OUT HOW LONG WILL THE NEGOTIATIONS LIKELY TAKE. REPRESENTATIVE PAUL PERSON.>>MADAME SPEAKER; I’M THE DATES IN THE BILL AND THE AMENDMENT THAT I PUT FORWARD TO UPDATE THE DATES IN THE BILL. REFLECT WHAT THE ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT THAT THEY NEED TO START TO WORK ON THIS.>>REPRESENTATIVE NICK AND THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER; BUT SHAREHOLDERS AND YOU CONTINUE TO YIELD. THAT’S THE DATE THAT’S GIVEN TO GO LIVE AND I’M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. NEGOTIATIONS ARE COMPLICATED AND THEY TAKE TIME AND I’M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO NEGOTIATE THINGS BECAUSE YOU’VE ALREADY EXEMPTED YOURSELF FROM MINUTES. AND SUBDIVISION 5 ON LINES. 13.7 13.8 EXEMPT YOURSELF FROM MINUTES AND A FISCAL NOTE SAYS THE WAY THEY ANALYZE AND FIGURE OUT THE COST IS THAT IS GOING TO BE A VENDOR TO SOLUTION. SO ARE YOU GONNA RUN THE STAR OF PR OF PEAS TAKE TIME I’M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BEFORE YOU CAN ACTUALLY EVEN BEGIN PUTTING WORK THROUGH THE SYSTEM WHAT’S THE ESTIMATE ON HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO ACTUALLY NEGOTIATE THAT CONTRACT. REPRESENTATIVE HOTTER SON.>>A MAN IN THE SPEAKER OF DEPARTMENTS WILL BEAT DOING THE ANY NEGOTIATION AND THE BILL IS NOT PRESCRIPTIVE THE BILL AS PERMISSIVE THE DEPARTMENT GETS TO DO WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO IN ORDER TO GET THE SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING AND IN FACT THE DEPARTMENT’S ALREADY BEEN DOING THE WORK AND THE RESEARCH TO SEE WHAT THEY NEED WHICH IS REFLECTED THE AMENDMENT THAT CHANGES THE DATES IN THE BILL.>>REPRESENTATIVE NASHVILLE. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER I I DIDN’T HEAR AN ANSWER THERE. SO SHAREHOLDERS INTERVIEWED YIELD AGAIN ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU MIGHT USE MINUTE AS THE THE ORGANIZATION TO CREATE THIS OFFER BECAUSE IT YOU AND OFFERS YOU OPTIONS. REPRESENTATIVE PAUL PERSON.>>MADAME SPEAKER I WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTING THIS BILL THAT APARTMENT OF A EMPLOYMENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WILL BE IMPLEMENTING THE BILL.>>WELL GREAT I REPRESENT AN IT MANAGER CHAIR; HOW HER SON. YOU’RE EVADING THE QUESTION YOU’RE TRYING TO DODGE AND YOU’RE TRYING TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE SOMEONE’S GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THE SOFTWARE. IT’S JUST AN IN CONTROVERSIAL FACT IT’S AND IT’S A BRAND NEW PIECE OF SOFT OR BECAUSE FEDERAL LAW SAYS YOU CAN’T USE YOU I FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN U I. SO YOU’RE TO CREATE A NEW SYSTEM AND THE FISCAL NOTE AND BY THE WAY AS A QUICK REPRESENTED VOGEL.>>LOVE LOVE LOVE THE FISCAL NOTES.>>AND THE DETAILS THAT YOU SEE IN THE FISCAL NOTES THAT SERVICE THAT’S A REFLECTION ON ON A RIBS AND A VOCAL; BUT BACK TO THIS. THIS IS A NEW PIECE OF SOFTWARE. IT’S GOING TO HAVE TO BE CREATED BY SOMEBODY. I’M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF IT IS AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION HAS THE FISCAL NOTE. MADAM SPEAKER FOR GOOD A QUIET THE CHAMBER OUT THERE SOME NOISE FROM OVER THERE. THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER; SOMEONE’S GOING TO HAVE TO CREATE THE SOFTWARE A CONTRACT WILL HAVE TO BE NEGOTIATED MORE THAN LIKELY AN RFP IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE PUT OUT BECAUSE THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS IN A FISCAL NOTE ARE $61 MILLION OR BETTER. SO I’M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT FROM THE AUTHOR WHO IS INTIMATELY ACQUAINTED WITH THIS PROCESS AND HAS PROBABLY ASKED SOME MECHANICAL QUESTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO THE CREATION OF HER PROJECT. WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD REPRESENTATIVE HALVERSON FROM THE DEPARTMENT ON THEIR ESTIMATE ON HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO NEGOTIATE THIS CONTRACT AND GET IT TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN BEGIN A COATING BECAUSE THERE’S A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE YOU’VE GIVEN THEM A TARGET DATE. BUT IF THAT TARGET DATE IS CHANGED SOME HOW BY BY THE CONTRACT. THEY CAN BEGIN COATING UNTIL A CONTRACT HAS BEEN IN SO MADAM SPEAKER SHE WOULD YIELD AN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. REPRESENTATIVE FATHER SON.>>THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER; AND YOU KNOW WE DIDN’T.>>THIS BILL DIDN’T MAKE IT THROUGH AND MADE IT UP THE FLOOR LAST YEAR IN THE JOBS COMMITTEE; BUT IT DIDN’T MAKE IT THE BILLS.>>FOR THE YEAR AND IT’S A SHAME. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT IN THAT THERE IS MORE SOFTWARE THAT’S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE MORE OFF THE SHELF SOLUTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE. IN ADDITION IT IS TO THAT CLONE THE U I SYSTEM WE CAN’T BUILD THE US SYSTEM BUT WE CAN CLONE WHAT IS WORKING AND AND WHAT THIS DEVELOPED AND ARE SO IT IS NOT. ALL NEW AND IT IS THE WORK DOESN’T ONCE THIS BILL BECOMES LAW THE WORK HAS ALREADY STARTED IT’S BEEN VERY CLEAR FOR VERY LONG TIME THAT MINNESOTANS NEED PAY PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL IT IT’S BEEN SOMETHING THAT’S BEEN BIPARTISAN ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ARE OUR STATE GOVERNMENT IS ALREADY FIG TRYING TO FIGURE WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE LEGISLATURE BASED ON A THE LEGISLATURE PASSING THE NEED FOR A STUDY. HOW TO DO THIS AND SO. IT WAS A SHAME THAT WE AND GET THE BILL THROUGH LAST YEAR BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE KNOW A LOT MORE AND THERE’S MORE OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR DEPARTMENTS IN ORDER TO BUILD THEIR SYSTEM. REPRESENTATIVE NUDGE THANK YOU MADAM.>>YOU’RE WELL CHAIR. HALVORSON IF YOU LOOK AT A PAGE 12 OF THE FISCAL NOTE AT THE VERY TOP. IT SAYS IN A FISCAL NOTE THAT THE U I SYSTEM WAS COMPLETED OVER 10 YEARS AGO COSTS HAVE INCREASED THAT WORK WAS DONE BY A PROGRAM STAFF WITH LONG 10 YEARS AND EXPERIENCE IN U I. THE TIMELINE IS LONGER THAN THAT PROPOSED THAT HIGH OF A HOUSE FILE 5. SO IF YOU WANT TO CLONE IT’S A MEMBER WE CLONED DOLLY THE SHEEP A LONG TIME AGO IT MAYBE THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE HOPING TO DO BUT IT’S NOT GOING TO WORK BECAUSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND I WONDER IF MAYBE YOU’RE GOING TO TRY TO RELY ON AN MINUTE TO CREATE THIS BECAUSE WHILE YOU EXEMPTED YOURSELF FROM IT. MADAM SPEAKER IF SHE WOULD YIELD A NASA ANSWER THE QUESTION OF WOULD YOU HAVING MINUTE PROGRAM THIS.>>REPRESENTATIVE PAUL MERSON MADAM SPEAKER I AM BUILDING ARE IMPLEMENTING THE PROGRAM THE DEPARTMENT IS AND HAVE THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THEM AND CAN AND AND ARE CONTINUING TO STUDY THE HOW TO BUILD THE SYSTEM.>>AND THEN I DIDN’T MATCH THANK YOU.>>AN INTERESTING AND SALIENT NOTE COMING OUT OF THE GOVERNOR’S BLUE RIBBON TASK FORCE ON ON I T IS AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE IN STATE GOVERNMENT FINANCE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO; YOU HEARD. COMMISSIONER TOME SAY THAT THEY ARE REALLY NOT INTERESTED IN CREATING SOFTWARE. SO THAT’S YOU KNOW SHORTEN THE POOL OF PEOPLE YOU’VE GOT TO DO THIS OFFER. MAYBE WE SHOULD THINK THE COMPANY THAT DID THE WASHINGTON PEACE. BECAUSE YOU HEARD WHEN A REPRESENTATIVE DAVID’S MENTION THAT THEY MISSED THEIR TARGET. THEY WERE TRYING TO GET IT DONE THEY WERE MOVING FORWARD AND THERE GO LIVE DATE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS YEAR JANUARY AND THEY STILL AREN’T QUITE FINISHED THAT ARTICLE I DON’T KNOW IF CHAIR DAVID TENNANT CIRCULATED BUT IT’S A GOOD ARTICLE. THEY WENT LIVE ON JANUARY 2020 AND AND IT’S STILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY AND MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS THAT IF YOU WERE TO CHOOSE THAT PIECE OF SOFTWARE. I GOT TO THINK THAT THE LAWS AND REGULATIONS AND HOW THEY DO THINGS IN THE STATE OF WAR OF A WASHINGTON IS MARKEDLY DIFFERENT. SO IT ISN’T LIKE YOU’RE JUST GOING TO GO BUY A PIECE OF SOFTWARE THAT IS BUILT TO GO ON TO ANY COMPUTER AND STAND UP AND GET IT RUNNING. THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL THINGS ABOUT MINNESOTA LAW AND HOW WE DO THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE COATED INTO THAT. SO I THINK. I AND I’M UP PREDICTIVE OF THE MENTALITY OF FIBERS BUILD THINK THAT’S GREAT. I THINK THIS BILL STINKS; BUT I THINK THAT THE NOTION. NOT BUILDINGS OFFER IS A GREAT ONE BECAUSE WE’RE NOT SO GOOD AT IT. PLEASE DON’T DELUDE YOURSELF INTO THINKING. A PIECE OF SOFTWARE THAT MAY BE UP AND RUNNING WELL APPARENTLY NOT QUITE UP AND RUNNING IN ANOTHER STATE; IT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE PICKED UP AND USED IMMEDIATELY HERE IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. I THINK THAT WE’VE ALL LEARNED THAT RUSHING THINGS. MAKING DECISIONS IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT IS A BAD IDEA AND I THINK THAT YOUR HELPERS AND WHAT YOU’VE DONE IS YOU’VE YOU’VE PUT A TIMELINE TO GET THIS UP AND RUNNING THAT’S GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE WORK FRANTICALLY AND EVEN YET THIS WEEK. YOU SAW THAT WHEN DECISIONS ARE MADE IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT; BAD THINGS HAVE AN OUTCOME. YOU SAW THE SECRETARY OF STATE’S OFFICE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT REDIRECTED PEOPLE TO A SITE THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE HIMSELF SAID THEY DIDN’T WANT IT DIRECTED TO THAT DECISION WAS MADE IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO MAKE IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT; THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TO MAKE A HASTY DECISION ON AND THE CREATION OF SOFTWARE AS I’M SURE ANY OF THE I T PROFESSIONALS IN HERE WILL TELL YOU IT’S A BAD IDEA. SO I HAVE THE CONCERN THAT I’VE ARTICULATED SURE HOW HER SON THAT THE CONTRACTING. PHASE OF THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A WHILE AND THAT’S GOING TO IMPERIL YOUR GO LIVE DATE. THE TESTING AS WE’VE TALK YOU KNOW LAST YEAR WE HAD USER ACCEPTANCE TESTING THAT EVERYBODY AGREED WAS A REALLY GREAT IDEA BECAUSE OF THE LESSONS THAT WE LEARNED FROM IN LARS. YOU’VE GIVEN YOURSELF SUCH AN A SHORT WINDOW BEFORE THIS HAS TO BE UP AND RUNNING AND COLLECTING TAXES. THAT I THINK THAT YOU’RE GOING TO FIND CHAIR HOWARD ZINN THAT YOU ARE BEHIND THE 8 BALL. AND I WILL ADVOCATE IN A BIPARTISAN MANNER THAT WE SHOULD NEVER RUSH. I SEE ALL THE I T FOLKS HERE IN THE ROOM WILL TELL YOU THAT I SEE IS THAT THING THAT’S MOST TO WORK BEHIND THE SCENES AND NEVER POP UP AND BE SEEN LIKE A RED SORE THUMB THAT YOU HAD YOURSELF WITH A HAMMER ON. WE’VE ENSURE THAT WAS A GLARING MISTAKE MEN LARS THAT WAS A GLARING MISTAKE. MATZ WAS NOT SO GOOD. PLEASE SHARE HOW HER SON DON’T RUSH THIS AND WELL I’M I’M WITH CHAIR DAVID ISN’T GOING TO HAPPEN. SO THIS IS A CANARD THAT WE’RE WE’RE WE’RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. I WILL GO BACK ALSO TO THE FISCAL NOTE. ON A PAGE 11. THE FISCAL STAFF. SAID THE FOLLOWING. ESTIMATION IS JUST THAT IS AN ESTIMATION THAT THEY DON’T HAVE A CONCRETE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT’S GOING TO GO INTO THIS SO THEY CAN’T GIVE YOU A FIRM NUMBER SO. YOU KIND OF OPENING UP A AN ENDLESS CHECKBOOK CHAIR HOWARD ZINN BECAUSE THEY THEMSELVES DON’T HAVE A FIRM NUMBER THEY SAY IN THE NOTES WHICH ARE VERY VERY VALUABLE. THAT COULD GO AWAY LONGER AND WE’VE SEEN COST OVERRUNS IN OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE’VE DONE TO HER HOW HER SON AND I FIND THAT ALARMING AND RECKLESS THAT WE WOULD MOVE SOMETHING WE SAY ALL WE GOT TO GET DONE GOT TO GET IT DONE WHEN OUR OWN FISCAL STAFF IS SAYING. WE DON’T EVEN KNOW THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE RIGHT. WE’RE NOT EVEN SURE THAT THIS IS AN ACCURATE NUMBER. AND NOT ONLY CHAIR HOWARD ZINN AND I WAS HERE TALKING TO REPRESENT THE MINUTE CHAIR HOWARD ZINN IN THE LAST FISCAL NOTE THAT WE HAD IT SAID THE SAME THING IN THE NEW FISCAL FISCAL NOTE. IT SAYS THE SAME THING IT SAYS THAT WE DON’T KNOW. WHEN MEMBERS WHEN WAS THE ANSWER OF WE DON’T KNOW A GOOD THING TO TELL THE PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA WE’RE GOING TO SPEND YOUR MONEY; WE’LL OPEN UP THE CHECKBOOK WE’RE GOING TO START THE TAXI METER RUNNING. THIS IS GOING TO SPIN AND SPIN AND SPIN AND SPIN TOO MUCH LIKE MEMOIRS TO REPRESENT THE SARAH’S POINT MUCH LIKE IT WAS OVER A MILLION. TAP THE BRAKES SLOW THIS DOWN THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU’RE GOING TO ROLL WANT TO RUSH INTO. I GET AND I KNOW YOU I CONSIDER YOU A FRIEND YOU HAVE A VERY COMPASSIONATE HEART YOU DO. AND I KNOW YOU FEEL PASSIONATELY ABOUT THIS. BUT THIS IS GOING TO HURT A LOT OF PEOPLE. THEY’RE GOING TO GET THEIR HOPES BUILT UP AND THIS THING ISN’T GOING TO LAUNCH ON TIME IT’S NOT IT CAN’T. SO MANY ASSUMPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY YOU IN THIS BILL IN THE FLOOR SPEECH THAT YOU JUST GAVE ARE BEING CONTRADICTED IN THE FISCAL NOTE. IT’S STAGGERING. AND FINALLY MEMBERS I WANT TO ECHO WHAT YOU’VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE OTHER MEMBERS. I GOT A LOT OF E-MAILS TODAY AND ACTUALLY YESTERDAY IN ANTICIPATION OF TODAY’S FLORIDA BAY. IF YOU REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO I HAD THE MAKIN TUNES GROCERY STORE FOLKS HERE ON THE FLOOR AND WE HONOR THEM WITH A PROCLAMATION BECAUSE THEY ARE THE OLDEST GROCERY STORE IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. I GOT AN E-MAIL FROM THE. 4TH GENERATION OF MAC IN TUNE TO ON MAC INTO THEY HAVE 3 GROCERY STORES. THEY HAVE LOTS OF EMPLOYEES AND THEY SAID PLEASE DON’T DO THIS. WELL SURE HOW HER SON MY KID WORKS THERE. IF THIS HAPPENS I GUARANTEE YOU I GUARANTEE YOU THAT MAKIN TUNES GOING TO EMPLOY A LOT LESS PEOPLE IN CARVER COUNTY. EMAILS FROM BEER DISTRIBUTORS I GOT E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE ALL ALONG MAIN STREET. WELL; TONY A MAIN STREET NORWOOD YOUNG AMERICA MAIN STREET WATERTOWN; MAIN STREET MAYOR; MAIN STREET COLOGNE. THEY ALL SAID PLEASE DON’T PASS THIS. THIS IS RECKLESS. SO CHAIR HOURS AND I AGAIN I DON’T HAVE YOUR ATTENTION I GUESS THAT’S THE FISCAL NOTE SAYS THAT THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW IF THEIR NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE. IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU’RE GOING TO RELY ON THE WASHINGTON SOLUTION; IT’S NOT WORKING. THERE ARE THINGS THAT WILL HAVE TO GO INTO THAT SOFTWARE THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. THAT WILL TAKE TIME TO GET INTO THE CODE TESTED. BREAK IT TESTED AGAIN AND TAKE IT THROUGH FULL COURSE OF USER ACCEPTANCE TESTING AND MUCH LIKE REPRESENT LUCERO SAID IT CAN TAKE A LONG TIME YOU’RE NOT GOING HIT YOUR MARKS. SO MEMBERS. I TRIED TO NOT MAKE THIS OVERLY EMOTIONAL I’M TRYING TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THE SIMPLE MECHANICS OF THE FACT THAT THE I T STUFF ISN’T GOING TO WORK. SO READ THE FISCAL NO ONE AGAIN WHO KNOWS TO REPRESENT A VOCAL GREAT READING. READ THE FISCAL NOTE IT WILL SHOCK YOU AND I BET A LOT OF YOU DIDN’T EVEN BOTHER TO READ THE FISCAL NOTE; BUT IF YOU DO. YOU’LL SEE THAT THE THINGS I’M SAYING THEY’RE NOT MY OPINIONS. IT IS THE OUTPUT OF THE FISCAL STAFF THAT YOU ALL RELY ON EVERY SINGLE DAY TO SAY THE VERACITY OF THIS FISCAL NOTE MEANS IN MY BILLS GOING TO BE A HOME RUN AH WELL GUESS WHAT. THIS ONE IS NOT EVEN A SINGLE TEAR HOURS AND THIS IS A THIS IS A FOUL BALL. VOTE NO THIS IS A HORRIBLE BILL NOT ONLY IS IT MECHANICALLY NOT GOING TO WORK. FROM 19 PERSPECTIVE; BUT IT’S GOING TO HURT MAIN STREET MINNESOTA. THE MEMBER FROM ST. LOUIS REPRESENTATIVES AND SAID.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER; I’M WONDERING IF REPRESENTATIVE DAVID’S WILL YIELD FOR A QUESTION.>>HE WILL YIELD YES REPRESENTATIVES AND SAID. THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER. QUITE A WHILE AGO WHEN YOU’RE MAKING YOUR COMMENTS AND THE SPELL YOU STARTED OUT. BY SAYING. ARE REFERENCING THAT THE INSTITUTE FOR WOMEN’S POLICY RESEARCH GAVE YOU WARM FUZZIES CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU MEANT OR. BY WARM FUZZIES OR WHY KATIE THOSE WARM FUZZIES. REPRESENTATIVE DAVID’S.>>WELL THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND TO REPRESENT FROM LOUIS. I SHOULD REPHRASE THAT TO SAY IT GIVES ME NO CONFIDENCE AT ALL BECAUSE THERE’S NO ACTUARIAL STUDIES ON THIS BILL. THERE’S NOTHING WE GO BY THE DEPARTMENT CAN’T EVEN SCORE IT. SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THIS IS UP AWFUL BILL IT’S HORRIBLE. HORRIBLE FOR MINNESOTA AND WE SHOULD NOT SUPPORT THIS. NO CAPS. THEY SAY TOO BILLION DOLLARS $2 BILLION JUST GOING COST. THAT’S THE FIRST YEAR THEN WHEN THEY FIND OUT THEY’RE BEHIND THERE’S NO CAP ON WHAT THEY CAN CHARGE.>>SO SOME COULD SAY IT’S A WARM FUZZY SOME COULD SAY IT’S AN AWFUL BILL.>>REPRESENTATIVES STAND SAID; THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER REP DAVID I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION ON THAT BECAUSE. I DIDN’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT BY WARM FUZZIES TO MY EARS. IT SOUNDED SNARKY DISRESPECT.>>FALL A LITTLE FLIP.>>AND THAT’S PROBABLY MIGHT YEARS SO I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION BUT I DO WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU. I HAVE A CONCERN IT MAY NOT HAVE JUST BEEN MY YEARS THAT HEARD IT THAT WAY AND I COULDN’T FIGURE OUT BECAUSE LATER IN YOUR STATEMENT; YOU SAID YOU DIDN’T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE INSTITUTE WAS OR WHO THEY WERE. AND IF YOU DIDN’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT I COULD ONLY GO BACK TO THE FACT THAT THE WORD WOMEN. WAS IN THERE AND I AM NOT SOMEBODY WHO IS EASILY OATH IT ENDED SO I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION VERY VERY MUCH THEN I ALSO WANTED TO SAY LATER IN YOUR YOU YOU TALKED ABOUT MEETING. YOU CALLED ON THE BODY AND SAID SOMETHING ABOUT DOING REAL WORK HERE ON THE FLOOR. AND MEMBERS; HERE’S WHAT I WANT TO SAY WHETHER YOU SUPPORT THIS SO ARE YOU DON’T SUPPORT THIS I FIRMLY BELIEVE REAL WORK IS BEING DONE HERE ON THE FLOOR TODAY THROUGH THIS BILL. WE’VE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE REPRESENTATIVE LIPPERT HAS SHARED STORIES OTHER MEMBERS HAVE SHARED STORIES. I HAVE REPRESENTATIVE NASA SHARED STORIES. MY STORY. I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT NEEDED TO CARE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW I WASN’T PLANNING ON SPEAKING TODAY. I HAD A MOTHER AND A FATHER WHO DEVOTED THEIR ENTIRE LIVES TO MY FAMILY AND I’M BLESSED FOR THAT. MY MOM WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A TERMINAL ILLNESS. MY FATHER WAS THE CARE TAKER. AND HE DID A GREAT JOB. AND ONE DAY HE DIDN’T COME HOME. AND HE HAD PASSED AWAY UNEXPECTEDLY. WHILE WE EXPECTED MOM TO GO FIRST THAT WAS IN OUR STORY DEAD WHEN FIRST. TO GET BACK TO HER. WHAT THEY HAD GIVEN TO ME ALL OF MY LIFE. IT WAS A PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO CARE FOR MY MOM BUT. AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I HAD A COUPLE OF DAYS AFFORDED TO ME. SHE WAS EXPECTED TO MAKE IT NO MORE THAN UP FOR WEEK. IT’S ON HOSPICE. BY THE GRACE OF GOD; HER 4 WEEKS TURNED INTO 4 YEARS. A REALLY REALLY TOUGH FOR YEARS. NEVER KNOWING IF TODAY’S GOING TO BE HER DAY OR 2 TOMORROW OR MICHIGAN UP A LOT OF THIS OR NOT PULL OUT OF IT IT IT IT WAS HIGHLY UNPREDICTABLE. WHEN WE THOUGHT IT WASN’T GOING TO BE. IN HER FINAL DAYS. EVERY BIT OF TIME MY HUSBAND HAD USED UP EVERY BIT OF TIME TO CARE FOR HER AND HONESTLY IT I’M GOING TO SAY THIS. THERE ARE DAYS WHEN WE COULDN’T BE THERE WHEN SHE PROBABLY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LEFT ALONE. THAT’S NOT SOMETHING I’M PROUD OF. BUT THAT WAS JUST THE REALITY. THE TIME CAME WHEN I CALLED MY FAMILY TOGETHER AND SAID. WE’VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING SHE’S TO SEC. I CAN’T KEEP HER IN HER AT HOME ANYMORE AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW I SOLD MY HOUSE AND THEY MOVED IN. BUT HER HOME TO LIVE WITH HER TO CARE FOR HER. AND I I HAD NOTHING LEFT TO HAD NO MORE TIME MY HUSBAND HAD NO MORE TIME. HER CARE WAS BECOMING TOO MUCH. I CALLED MY SIBLINGS IN AND SAID WE NEED A GAME PLAN AND I CAN’T AFFORD TO TAKE ANY MORE TIME OFF. I DIDN’T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY OR THAT OPTION. SO WE MADE A PLAN EVERYBODY WAS GOING TO SHARE AT LEAST A WEEK OF UNPAID TIME. UNTIL WE COULD FIND A TRANSITIONAL PLAN AND SHE MADE IT ONLY 4 DAYS AND PASSED AWAY; SO WE DIDN’T HAVE TO USE THAT PLAN; BUT MY POINT IS THIS IF WE ALL HAD AN EMPLOYER LIKE REPRESENTATIVE BAKER WHO COULD WORK WITH HIS EMPLOYEES COOL; I KNOW YOU WOULD BACK BEND OVER BACKWARDS FOR THEM. WE WOULDN’T BE HERE ON THE FLOOR TODAY DEBATING THIS. THAT’S NOT THE STORY. I JUST DON’T WANT SNARK I DON’T WANT MISUNDERSTANDINGS. REAL WORK IS BEING DONE HERE. AND WE’RE DOING IT BECAUSE OF SOMETHING WE ALL HAVE IN COMMON. AND THAT’S BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE SOMEBODY WE LOVE WE ALL HAVE SOMEBODY WE CARE FOR WE ALL WANT TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. WE ARE DEBATING THE FINER POINTS OF THIS. TELLING YOU HOW TO VOTE. BOTH THE WAY YOU NEED TO VOTE ON THIS. BUT AGAIN THE POINT IS WE’RE DOING REAL WORK AND THIS ISSUE HAS COME UP BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO TUNE NOT HAVE THE OPTION OF CARING FOR THEIR SON OR THEIR PARENTS. OR THEIR SPOUSE. LET’S NOT LOSE THAT FACT. OUR SESSION STARTED OUT WITH REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT ASKING FOR RESPECT BUT IN CALLING OUT SOME RESPECT; THANKS. LET’S JUST MAKE SURE THAT. OUR COMMON CERS CLEARS THEY CAN BE. LET’S DO OUR BEST BUT IF WE DON’T UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW WHAT AN INSTITUTE IS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LET’S NOT JUST UNDERMINE IT. THE MEMBER FROM HENNEPIN REPRESENTATIVE TOKENS.>>THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR WHEN WE HAD THE EYE THE RELATED TO THIS BILL A YEAR AGO ON MY LEFT KIND OF I’M SATISFIED WITH WHERE WE WERE AND SO DURING THE INTERIM I TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO US. EXPLORE MYSELF; WHAT WERE THE AT THE REAL ISSUES HERE AND WHAT OTHER ALTERNATIVES MIGHT BE AVAILABLE SPOKE WITH DEED WORK WITH THE TO EXPLORE OTHER ALTERNATIVES SO AMONG THE ALTERNATIVES THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN DISCUSSED TONIGHT; I THINK THE CHAIR HALVORSON ALLUDED TO SOME OF THEM BUT WHEN HIM AND THE DISCUSSIONS WITH A FOCUS THAT DEED. WE LEARNED THAT THE REASON YOU COULDN’T FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ON THE U I PLANT FOR IS THAT THERE IS A FEDERAL RESTRICTION AGAINST COMMINGLING UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE WITH OTHER PROGRAMS ON ON THE SAME PLATFORMS. WHAT’S HAPPENED SINCE SINCE WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IS THAT WE LEARNED THAT DEED IS GOING TO BE UP CREATING THAT SYSTEM AND A WAY THAT WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY AND THAT WILL D TO BASICALLY CLONE THE U I SYSTEM AND THEN START THE MODIFICATIONS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE OFF OF THE UPGRADED CLONE OF THAT PLATFORM. SO. AND THEN THE ALTERNATIVE THAT I DISCOVERED IS THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS; WHICH HAS STARTED CLASS. I THINK PAT PAID FAMILY MEDICAL PREMIUMS AT THIS POINT IS USING AND ADD-ON MODULE TO THE FAST TAX COLLECTION SYSTEMS AND STATE OF MINNESOTA ALREADY USES THE SAME TAX COLLECTION; A PLATFORM. IN THE DEPARTMENT OF SO THAT WOULD BE A ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT WE CAN BUY OFF THE SHELF AND ORDER TO DO THE TAX COLLECTION AND THEN MASSACHUSETTS AND CONNECTICUT ARE WORKING WITH THE FAST TO ALSO DEVELOP A PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE A CLAIM ADJUDICATION SYSTEM AS WELL. SO BY THE TIME WE ACTUALLY PASSED THIS BILL WILL HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER REALLY GOOD ALTERNATIVES ON THAT CABLE SO I I HAVE THE FISCAL NOTE OPEN IN FRONT OF TURN TO PAGE 11. AND I WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ALL DO IS CONSIDER WYATT; WHAT WRITTEN IN THERE IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO BECAUSE AND I’M LOOKING AT THIS IRAN I IMMEDIATELY REALIZED THAT TIME THIS FISCAL NOTE HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE LAST YEAR WHEN WE CONSIDERED THE SAME QUESTION. IT INCLUDES ALL OF THAT THE SAME ASSUMPTIONS THAT A NEW SYSTEM WHAT HAVE TO BE BUILT ENTIRELY FROM SCRATCH. AND ALL THAT THEY’VE DONE THE VERBIAGE IS IT ACTUALLY IDENTICAL THE ONLY THING THAT THEY’VE DONE IS UPGRADED THE LABOR GREAT LABOR RATES IN THE IN THE ESTIMATES SO LOOK AT THE WHAT YOU SEE IN THE FISCAL NOTE; FISCAL NOTE IS AS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. THE WORST CASE AND OUR IT WOULD BE THAT WE BUILD A SYSTEM ENTIRELY FROM SCRATCH. THE WAY THAT THE STATE OF WASHINGTON DID THE PROGRAM WE HAVE AND THE PLATFORMS THAT THEY WORK WITH THEY’RE VERY SIMILAR TO OUR OWN AND THE BILL ALLOWS. MORE TIME FOR US TO DO WHAT WASHINGTON DID AND THEN IN WASHINGTON TOOK THEMSELVES. PLUS WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF GOING TO SCHOOL ON THEIR MISTAKES; INCLUDING THE FACT THAT THEY DID NOT ANTICIPATE AND AND UM IT AN INITIAL PENT-UP DEMAND OVERALL OVERWHELMED THEIR SYSTEM. WHICH WOULD BE A ONE TIME THING SUCH AS A THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE’RE HAVING RIGHT NOW WITH THE THE REAL ID BACK CLUB WHICH IS A REAL IDEAS; ANOTHER FAST ENTERPRISES SYSTEM THAT WE IMPLEMENTED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO ABOUT THE BAT BACKLOGS ARE IN THE BACK OFFICE AT THE DEPARTMENT OF DRIVER AND VEHICLE SERVICES IN THAT CASE. THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT’S HAPPENED IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON WITH THEIR IMPLEMENTATION OF A PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE THEY’VE GOT 3 TIMES THE THE CLAIMS IT A VOLUME THAT THEY WERE EXPECTING AND THEY’RE BACK OFFICE WAS OVERWHELMED. SO I’VE NOT HEARD THAT THEY’RE ACTUALLY HAVING SYSTEM PROBLEMS PER SE THEY ARE HAVING TO BUY IT OFF A REALLY BIG INITIAL CHUNKED IT’S GOING TO TAKE ITS WAY TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THROUGH THE PYTHON SO. YOU KNOW FROM A SYSTEMS PERSPECTIVE. I SAID LAST YEAR ON THE FLOOR HERE THAT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE SILLY FOR US TO BUILD AN ENTIRELY NEW SYSTEM FROM SCRATCH. I STILL FEEL THAT WAY AND BUT NOW I CAN SEE THAT WE DO HAVE BY EITHER CLONING AND UPGRADED YOU I SYSTEM HERE OR BY THE TIME THIS BILL ACTUALLY A PASSES AND GOES INTO EFFECT. WE MAY HAVE A DISH NULL OPTIONS THAT WE CAN BUY OFF THE SHIP THE FAST ENTERPRISES. IT’S NOT ALL GLOOM AND DOOM; THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO THANK YOU. THE MEMBER FROM KOOCHICHING REPRESENTATIVE EKLAND.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER I’LL BE VOTING YES AND ALL US FROM 5. BUT I WANT TO TALK TO ONE SPECIFIC PART OF THIS BILL THAT’S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. SUBDIVISION STARTING ON LINE 10.5 IS A TERM CALLED QUALIFYING EXEMPTION C. THIS TERM MEANS IN NEED ARISING OUT OF MILITARY ACTIVE DUTY SERVICE OR ORDER TO ACTIVE DUTY IN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES HERE ARE SOME REASONS TO SPORT QUALIFYING EXIST. HE WAS FILED IS I 5 IS DESIGNED TO HELP FAMILY MEMBERS DURING FOREIGN DEPLOYMENTS. VERY STRAIGHT VERY STRESSFUL TIME FOR MILITARY FAMILIES. MINNESOTA NATIONAL GUARD MEMBERS. DEPLOYED TO KUWAIT AND IRAQ LAST SEPTEMBER FOR PRESENT FABIAN; THANK YOU FOR YOUR SON’S SERVICE OVER THERE APPRECIATE IT. THERE HAVE BEEN 18 MINNESOTA NATIONAL GUARD DEPLOYMENTS IN THE LAST 18 YEARS. AND I THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE TO OUR STATE AND OUR COUNTRY. LAST YEAR 150 NEW YORK GUARD MEMBERS RECEIVE BENEFITS UNDER SIMILAR PROVISION IN PALEY PROGRAM. MADAME SPEAKER MEMBERS THIS PROVISION PROVIDE SOME ASSURANCES FOR A FAMILY MEMBER THERE’S THAT’S A PROBABLY SERVE OUR STATE AND COUNTRY. AND I THINK THE BILL AUTHOR FOR. FOR THIS PROVISION. WE CAN BE PROUD OF WATER SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN DO. IT’S A STRESSFUL TIME WHEN THEY LEAVE TOO SERVE OUR COUNTRY OVERSEAS OR IN THE UH HUH WINNERS DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAPPEN A STATE WHERE AN AIR NATIONAL GUARD IN THE STATE SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT VISION CLEAR TO THE MEMBERS AND WHILE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WILL BE VOTING FOR ALL 5; 5; THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER MEMBERS.>>THE MEMBER FOR MORRISON REPRESENTATIVE CHRIS SHOT.>>MADAME SPEAKER MEMBERS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK REPRESENTED DAVIDS THAT COULD YIELD MY TIME TO HIM AND GIVE HIM A QUESTION. REPRESENTATIVE DAVID’S. THANK FOR YIELDING I DO NEED TO ADDRESS SOME INJUSTICES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ON THE FLOOR TODAY BY REPRESENTS AND STEVE IN MY OPINION. IN MASON’S AND I’M NOT SAYING A POINT OF ORDER SECTION ONE 24 ITEM 3 IT’S NOT ALLOW WILL TO A RAIN THE MOTORS OF A MEMBER. PERFECT SENSE TO CALL ME SNARKY. SHE SAID I WAS SNARKY SHE SAID IT WAS FLIPPANT CAN’T ANYONE FIGURE OUT THAT THAT WAS NOT SNARKY IS NOT PULL UP AND IT WAS SARCASM. AT ITS FINEST SO I’M OFFENDED THAT YOU ARE OFFENDED. ON THIS BILL. THIS IS A SHAME FALL. WE ARE GIVING PEOPLE FALSE HOPE WE’RE TELLING OUR ALL SORTS OF VERY VERY SAD STORIES AND THEY ARE SAD. I DON’T QUESTION THAT. BUT THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. WE ARE YES WE’RE WORKING ON THIS. ON SOMETHING THAT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I WAS TOLD ONE TIME THAT BECAUSE I’M MARTIN AND A NORWEGIAN I LIKE TO BEAT MY HEAD AGAINST A WALL BECAUSE IT FEELS SO GOOD ON EQUIPPED. SO I’M EXTREMELY OFFENDED BY ROUGH SOME SAN STATES COMMENTS THAT I WAS SNARKY AND FLIPPANT IN OF SOMEBODY ON THIS FLOOR CAN TELL ME WHAT THE INSTITUTE FOR POLICY RESEARCH BASING. THIS IT’S NOT ACTUAL REAL GROUP FROM I CAN FIND. SO YOU HAVE THE INSTITUTE FOR WOMEN’S POLICY RESEARCH; THE DEPARTMENT CAN’T EVEN FIGURE OUT THE ACTUARIAL ITEMS ON AS SPEAKER OF SOME SAMSI YOU HAVE SANTA YOU HAVE OFFENDED ME GREATLY. THE MEMBER FROM POPE REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON MADAM SPEAKER I BELIEVE BASED ON THE FLOOR. REPRESENTATIVE TREY SHOT. THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER.>>AND THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE IT’S I I KNEW YOU’D WANT TO ADDRESS THAT MEMBERS AND REPRESENTATIVE HOW HER THIS IS A GOOD CONVERSATION. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. I CERTAINLY DON’T DISAGREE WITH THE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS IN MANY SITUATIONS; BUT WE DO NEED TO TALK ABOUT SOME ISSUES ON THIS AND HOW IT WILL AFFECT CERTAIN INDUSTRIES; ONE OF WHICH IS THE EDUCATION INDUSTRY AND ALSO THIS IS A WORKFORCE ISSUE WE’RE DIRECTLY LOOKING AT HOW WE ARE GOING TO AFFECT THE WORKFORCE IN THIS STATE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF WORKERS AND THAT IS PROJECTED TO INCREASE WE NEED TO BRING MORE WORKERS AND WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO GET WORKERS INTO EMPLOYERS BECAUSE WITH THAT SHORTAGE PEOPLE AREN’T GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE TIME OFF THAN YOU. SO WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO HELP OUR EMPLOYERS ATTRACT MORE EMPLOYEES. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE EDUCATION WHICH IS IN DIRE NEED OF ATTRACTING TEACHERS AND HIGH QUALITY SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS. A BILL LIKE THIS COULD HAVE DIRE CONSEQUENCES. A BILL LIKE THIS WILL PUT A MANDATE INTO SCHOOLS THAT THEY ARE ALREADY FULL OF MANDATES WITH. WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO ADDRESS THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP TO IMPROVE OUR WORKFORCE; WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO ADDRESS THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP. SO THAT WE CAN FILL THESE GAPS NOT MAKE IT WE’RE FOR SCHOOLS. WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE SCHOOLS. A HUGE CROSS SUBSIDY ISSUE. WE ALREADY HAVE A HUGE GAP IN FUNDING THERE. WE ALREADY HAVE. UNACCEPTABLE ACHIEVEMENT GAP WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. WE ALREADY HAVE. TOO MANY MANDATES; INCLUDING ONE THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS DECIDED ONE WAY TO IMPROVE THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP IS WITH AN EARTH SCIENCE MANDATE. THIS IS ONE MORE MANDATE ON TOP OF THOSE MANDATES THERE AREN’T GOING TO MAKE OUR WORKFORCE BETTER. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS. WHAT I SEE IS A TAX THAT WE’RE PUTTING ON TO ONE GOVERNMENT AGENCY; THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO TAKE IT OUT OF THEIR COFFERS TO GO INTO ANOTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCY WE HAVE TO FIX THAT IF WE DO NOT FIX THIS. THIS WILL COME RIGHT OUT OF THE GENERAL FIND THIS MONEY WILL COME RIGHT OUT TO LOCAL TAXPAYERS. WE’LL COME RIGHT OUT OF THE CLASSROOMS. IT WILL COME RIGHT OUT OF THE SUPPLIES AS THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM IS MOVING MONEY FROM THEM TO A ANOTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCY. THAT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE AND WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THIS WILL AFFECT THE SCHOOLS WILL BE RIGHT BACK AND AT FINANCE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY THAT ISN’T ALREADY THERE. AND AS I ALREADY MENTIONED WE HAVE ACROSS SUBSEA PROBLEM WE HAVE NO REAL SOLUTION TO HOW WE’RE GOING TO GET MORE HIGH QUALITY SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS IN TO HELP THE SCHOOLS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT EDUCATION IS HAVING A CONSISTENT TEACHER IN FRONT OF THESE KIDS IS ONE OF THE SINGLE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO THEIR EDUCATION AND IMPROVEMENT ACHIEVEMENT GAP. AND THIS WILL MAKE THAT WORSE. MEMBERS WE’RE SEEING LOTS OF THINGS IN IN THIS BODY THIS YEAR. ARE BEING PUSHED QUICKLY AND OTHERS THAT ARE NOT BEING PUSHED OFF. WE’RE TRYING TO SOLVE THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP THIS DOESN’T DO THAT. BUT YET WE CAN’T GET A HEARING ON EDUCATIONAL AMENDMENT THAT COULD ACTUALLY DO THAT. SO WHY ARE WE IN CRUDE WHY ARE WE PUSHING MANDATES. WHEN WE SHOULD BE BACK TRYING TO ADDRESS A QUALITY EDUCATION THIS WILL TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE SCHOOLS. REQUIRE US TO FIND MORE MONEY TO GOING THROUGH THAT THE GENERAL FUND AND IT’S GOING TO REDUCE WHAT WE’RE ALREADY TRYING TO DO WHICH IS FIXED EACH EVENING GAP; THIS AND FOR THAT MATTER UNTIL THAT IS FIX; I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS BILL. REMEMBER FROM POPE REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER MEMBERS. IT’S BEEN TALKED ABOUT TO.>>EARLIER IN THE AFTERNOON THAT WE ALL GO HOME AND GO AROUND THE STATE AND TALK TO FOLKS AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY WANT. AND THE SUMMER SAYING THEY THEY NEED A PROGRAM SUCH AS THIS WELL WHEN I’VE GONE HOME AND TALK TO THE FOLKS THAT RUN THE BUSINESSES ON THE MEAN STREETS OF THE TOWNS AND CITIES BACK IN MY DISTRICT THEY’RE TELLING ME THEY DON’T WANT A PROGRAM LIKE THIS THEY DON’T WANT THIS MASSIVE ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL $2 BILLION TAX INCREASE AND WHEN I TRY TO TALK TO ME TO EXPLAIN WHAT IT DOES IT FIRSTLY THEY CAN’T BELIEVE IT YOU’RE GOING TO COME WITH ANOTHER STATE TAX ON EMPLOYERS AND THEN EVENTUALLY PASS CENT TAX ON ARE PART OF IT ON THAT TO MY WORKERS. THEY THEY JUST ARE CONCERNED THIS IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO HANDLE. IN THE REMARKS OF REPRESENTATIVE LIBERTY HE MENTIONED THAT THE REASON ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THIS PROGRAM IS THAT SMALL EMPLOYERS CAN’T AFFORD TO OFFER A BENEFIT LIKE THIS. BUT YET THIS IS A SELF SUPPORTING YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO BE A SELF-SUPPORTING PROGRAM. SO YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF HOW CAN THAT HAPPEN. IT’S BECAUSE OF A $2 BILLION TAX INCREASE THAT’S GOING TO FUND THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM. YEAH; I’M A FARMER YAWN FORMER WORK AT HOME WITH MY WIFE AND KIDS WHEN THEY’RE WHEN THEY’RE HOME. BUT I CAN’T FOR THE LIFE OF ME UNDERSTAND. WHY THE STATE SHOULD INTERFERE WITH THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS THAT SHOULD BE BETWEEN THE EMPLOYER AND THE EMPLOYEE TO SET UP A FAIR WAGE AND BENEFIT PACKAGE; I JUST CAN’T UNDERSTAND WHY WERE INTERFERING IN THAT TYPE OF PROCESS SO AGAIN. THIS IS AN EASY NO VOTE FOR ME; I’M THIS THIS BILL IN ITS IN ITS SIZE AND MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. IS VERY CONCERNING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THIS TO ME AND THE FOLKS BACK HOME IN THE THIS IS A SOLID RED FOOT FROM THIS MEMBER; THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. THE MEMBER FROM HENNEPIN REPRESENTATIVE FOR MONTHS. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER; THANK YOU MEMBERS.>>I JUST HAVE A COUPLE POINTS. I WANTED DISCUSS WITH YOU AND FALLING UPON REPRESENTATIVE CHRIS SAYS POINT I HAD THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES. THE ROGERS ELK RIVER SCHOOL DISTRICT TESTIFY AT THE JOB COMMITTEE TODAY ON THE WAGE STEPPED DOWN AND IT WAS VERY END HE SUPPORTS A LOT OF THE IDEAS THERE; BUT IT’S REALLY A STRUGGLE FOR SCHOOLS TO IMPLEMENT HE OUTLINED ALL THE DIFFERENT CONCERNS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE WITH THAT AND THEN AS WE WERE IN THE HALL AFTERWARD HE SAID TO ME. I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU WILL STAND UP FOR SCHOOLS TO KNOW NIGHT ON A TEAR HS I’VE HE SAID IT WILL COST SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THIS STATE 46 MILLION DOLLARS IF IMPLEMENTED. AND THAT WILL COME OUT OF THE CLASSROOM; I’M QUOTING HIM AND SEE SCHOOLS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THEY DON’T AS HE SAID TO ME THEY DON’T HAVE WHICH IT’S THAT THEY CAN JUST INCREASE THE PRICE. I’M TO RECOUP THIS TAX THIS IS COMING OUT OF FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS FOR CLASSROOMS; THE GENERAL FUND AND SO I HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU WILL DISCUSS THIS WITH YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS BEFORE. I DON’T YOU VOTE ON IT TONIGHT OR MAYBE BEFORE THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE VERSION IF THERE IS ONE; BUT THIS IS A BIG CONCERN FOR SCHOOLS THAT I THINK WE ALL NEED TO TAKE SERIOUSLY AND IF THE SCHOOLS IF WE DO PASS THIS TAX IN THE SCHOOLS ARE PAYING FOR IT. AND IT’S COMING OUT OF THE CLASSROOM THEN IT WILL JUST INCREASE THE EDUCATION COST TO EVERYONE IN THE STATE BECAUSE THEY’LL NEED TO COME BACK TO THE STATE FOR EVEN ADDITIONAL MORE RESOURCES THAT AREN’T FOCUSED ON TEACHING AND LEARNING BUT THAT ARE FOCUSED ON THESE ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS SO I JUST ENCOURAGE THE MEMBERS TO CONSIDER THAT SECONDLY AT I I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BILLION TAX INCREASE THAT ALL MINNESOTA EMPLOYERS AND POTENTIALLY PASS ON TO THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO FACE IF YOU LOOK AT THE FISCAL NOTE IF IT REFERENCES BETWEEN 4; 6%; UP TAKE ON THIS. SO ALL EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES WILL BE PAID SEEING THIS FOR 4.6% UPTAKE AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE’S GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS THE OTHER STATES THAT HAVE THIS IT’S HIM ROY III FUNDED PROGRAM OFTEN ON THE DISABILITY AND I KNOW WE CAN’T DO THAT HERE BUT THERE’S GOT TO BE A DIFFERENT WAY TO FUND IT IT’S NOT SO ONEROUS ON ALL EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES SO I HOPE THAT IF THIS DOESN’T PASS THAT WE WILL TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT THIS. AND SECONDLY I REALLY WANT TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE OF THAT DI TE COST. I SHARE THE CONCERNS OF MY COLLEAGUES ON AND THAT THERE IS VERY LITTLE GOOD DATA ON WHAT THIS IS GOING TO COST AND ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING THINGS IS THAT WE WILL REQUIRING EMPLOYERS EMPLOYEES TO TO START COLLECTING THE PREMIUMS FROM THEIR TAX ON JANUARY OF 2022 AND BENEFITS WILL START ON JULY ONE OF 2023. JULY ONE OF 20 23 IS THE START OF F Y 24. AND THAT IS THE DATE AT WHICH THE COMMISSIONER DEED IT CAN RAISE THIS TAX AS HIGH AS HE OR SHE WANTS SO IF THERE IS A HUGE COST OVERRUN AT THE MOMENT BENEFITS ARE NEEDING TO BE PAID. COMMISSIONER NOT THIS BODY HAS THE ABILITY TO RAISE THAT TAX AS HIGH AS THEY WANT AND THAT ISN’T DONE CONSTABLE ABDICATION OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND THAT POWER SHOULD NOT BE RESTED WITH THE DEED COMMISSIONER AS MUCH AS I LIKE A COMMISSIONER GROWS I DO NOT THINK THAT POWER SHOULD BE VESTED IN HIM AND SO MEMBERS I URGE YOU TO SEE THAT TIMING OF THIS AND HOW THAT IS JUST A BLANK CHECK AND I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO. THANK YOU.>>THE MEMBER FROM STERN’S REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER.>>MEMBERS I HAVE HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES IN MY COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SUSTAINABLE WE’VE ALREADY HEARD THAT THIS EVENING. BUT I WANT TO SPEAK TO ABOUT MY SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF REPRESENTING AND I HAVE 6 SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT AND THOSE ARE REAL COREY.>>ALBANY EVEN VALLEY WATKINS CAMPBELL GAINESVILLE AND SAINT CLOUD.>>I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO MY SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO; BUT FOR THAT BUT BEFORE THAT THE SPOTLIGHT TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT EACH ONE OF MY DISTRICTS. I DIDN’T GET INTO EACH BUILDING BUT I DID GET INTO AT LEAST ONE SCHOOL WITHIN EACH DISTRICT. I GOT TO SEE OUR TEACHERS THAT I WILLING TO WORK REALLY HARD AND TEACH OUR STAR STUDENT SAYS WE NEED AND THEY ARE WORKING INCREDIBLY DEDICATED IN THEIR PROFESSION. I TALK TO ADMINISTRATORS WHO ARE FACING CHALLENGES THAT AGAIN WE’VE HEARD ALREADY THIS EVENING FINANCES AND AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE REALLY HARD TO DO. BUT WHEN I REACHED OUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BILL AGE OF 5. I SAID HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT OUR DISTRICT AND I HEARD BACK FROM ALMOST ALL OF MY SUPERINTENDENT’S AND THIS IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME THEY SAID IN PAINESVILLE THAT IS GOING TO BE EQUAL TO ONE F T E AND IN A SMALLER SCHOOL THAT IS AN INCREDIBLE ISSUE. THIS IS A QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM MY SUPERINTENDENT IN PAINESVILLE HE SAID WE OUT IN SCHOOLS; WE ALL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT LOST INSTRUCTIONAL TIME WHEN SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS ARE IN THE CLASSROOMS THAT IN CONSISTENCY IS AN ISSUE. BUT HE SAID WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS ESSENTIALLY THAT RE RE APPROPRIATE $40;339 OF GAINESVILLE AREA SCHOOLS REVENUE. GIVEN ALL OF THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE RIVER REGARDING ACHIEVEMENT GAPS EQUITY ISSUES GRADUATION RATES COLLEGE AND THIS SCHOOL SAFETY MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES SPECIAL EDUCATION DUE PROCESS AND DYSLEXIA HOW DOES THIS APPROPRIATION MOVE THE NEEDLE ON ANY OF THESE PUBLIC EDUCATION CONCERNS AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD POINT. THE SAINT CLOUD SCHOOL DISTRICT PUT THIS TAX IS GOING TO LOSE 5 FT EASE THE EQUIVALENT OF THAT. MY RECORD DISTRICT IS GOING TO LOSE THE 3 AND MIKE CAMPBELL SCHOOL SAID SOMETHING INTERESTING YEAH WILL LOSE ABOUT ONE FTE BUT WE ARE READY CAN FIND SUBS AS IT IS TO COME INTO OUR SCHOOLS IN THE CLASSROOM; IT’S EVEN HARDER TO FIND SUBS IN OUR SUPPORT STAFF. THIS IS GOING TO MAKE THAT JOB A LOT MORE DIFFICULT. SOME MEMBERS TONIGHT; I CANNOT I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS BILL AND I’LL BE VOTING NO. THANK YOU.>>THE MEMBER FROM DAKOTA REPRESENTATIVE CLAFLIN.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER MEMBERS BEFORE I HAD THE HONOR OF REPRESENTING MY COMMUNITY HERE IN THE LEGISLATURE; I HAD THE HONOR OF REPRESENTING MY COLLEAGUES AS AN ACT OF UNION MEMBER AND AS A LOCAL PRESIDENT WITHIN THE MINNESOTA ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEES OR MAKE.>>I WORKED WITH UNION MEMBERS TO LEAD THE WAY. ON GETTING 6 WEEKS OF PAID PARENTAL LEAVE FOR STATE EMPLOYEES IN OUR CONTRACTS. AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT THAT HER CONTACTS PAST. WITH THAT PAID PARENTAL LEAVE. I WANTED TO KNOW HOW WEAK TAKING YOU TO USE OUR POWER TO BRING PAID LEAVE TO ALL MINNESOTANS. THIS POLICY IS MADE THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AN EMPLOYER OF CHOICE. WE’VE USED IT TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN THE BEST PUBLIC EMPLOYEES. THIS POLICY HAS BEEN GOOD FOR THE STATE AS AN EMPLOYER. PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE IS A SMART ECONOMIC POLICY. THAT ALSO MAKES US A BETTER SOCIETY. BUT ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS; ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU’VE LOST YOUR WAYS. SO I AM PROUD TO VOTE FOR A PLAN. BUT OFF TOWARDS ALL OF US THE ABILITY TO HERE FOR OUR FAMILIES AND OURSELVES WHEN THE TIME ARISES I URGE A GREEN BELT.>>THE MEMBER FROM RIGHT REPRESENTATIVE MCDONALD. MADAME SPEAKER MEMBERS HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT FLIPPY. FOR THOSE WHO DON’T HAVE A COPY THAT I DID TO SEND A COPY AROUND TO EVERY MEMBER FOR THOSE WHO DON’T HAVE IT I’M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU ABOUT FLIPPY THE ROBOT. HE’S A ROBOT AND HE WORKS FOR ABOUT $3 AN HOUR. AND IT’S NOT FROM A STAR WARS MOVIE THIS IS IN REAL LIFE. IN A TEST KITCHEN IN THE CORNER BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN PET DOWNTOWN PASEDENA THAT’S IN CALIFORNIA FLIPPY THE ROBOT GRAB THE FRYER BASKET FULL OF CHICKEN FINGERS HE PUNCHES INTO A HOT OIL; ITS SENSORS THEN TOLD THAT EXACTLY HOW HOT IT WAS THEN HE LIFTED IT DRAINED IT AND DONE THAT DUMPED A MAXIMALLY TENDER TENDERS INTO A WAITING HOPPER. ANOTHER FLIPPY THE ROBOT I THE BEEF; PATTY SAYS LEAN ON A GRIDDLE WITH ITS CAM ARISE 6 FEET PIXELS TO A MACHINE VISION BRAIN. IT WAITED UNTIL THE BEEF HIT THE RIGHT SHADE OF BROWN. THEN SMOOTHLY SLIPPED A SPATULA HAND UNDER THE BURGER AND PLOPPED IT ON A TRAIN. THIS IS A PRODUCT OF RESEARCH FOR MANY YEARS AND MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND IT IS A REALITY. IT IS GOING TO REPLACE ESPECIALLY IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY. MANY WORKERS AS THE NATION CONTINUES TO MANDATE $15 MINUTE A MINIMUM OUR RANGES NOT TO TIP CREDIT PASSING TIP CREDIT BILLS WITHIN THEIR HOUSES AND CHAMBERS AND INSTILLING THIS KIND OF AGENDA. THIS PARTICULAR BILL FOR MANDATORY PAID SICK LEAVE. RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES WILL FURTHER LOOK TO THE FUTURE OF ROBOTICS TO REPLACE HUMANS. MATTER OF FACT THIS ARTICLE FROM THE LOS ANGELES TIMES CAME OUT LONG BEFORE THEY EVEN KNEW ABOUT THE CHAIR WOMAN’S BILL. SO I’M SURE THERE PROBABLY IS GOING TO SPEED UP RESEARCH EVEN FURTHER. NOW FOR THE SUCCESS AND THE SUCCESS OF THE COMPANY’S THE BILL THAT MY SO ROBOTICS WILL GIVE A LITTLE CREDIT DEPENDS ON THE SIMPLE MATH AND CONTROVERSIAL HYPOTHESIS SOMEHOW ROBUST CAN TRANCE OR VIS THE ECONOMY COSTING LESS THAN AN EMPLOYEE. LESS THAN A MINIMUM WAGE WORKER. FLIPPY IS BUILT TO SLIP ALONGSIDE HUMANS ON THE FAST FOOD. LINE WE MUST BE CAREFUL THEY MAY REPLACE US ON THE HOUSE FLOOR SOMETHING. MY SO CAN OFFER FOR PEACE TO A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT OWNERS FOR ONLY $2000 A MONTH. $2000 A MONTH; YOU KNOW WHAT IT COST AN EMPLOYEE OR EMPLOYER FOR EMPLOYEE PER MONTH; DEPENDING ON THE AREA IN THE STATE AND THEIR GUIDELINES AND LAWS IN THE US THAT THE STATE 4 TO $10;000 A MONTH. AND YOU ADD ON THIS BILL REPRESENTED HALVORSON WHICH THANKS BE TO GOD. IT WON’T BE LOT. THANKS TO THE SENATE. IT WILL ADD EVEN MORE COST TO AN EMPLOYER. IRAN YESTERDAY ON A BEAUTIFUL DAY WAS ABOUT 43 DEGREES YESTERDAY AHEAD A COUPLE HOURS TO KILL BEFORE CAUCUSES SESSION. SO I RAN DOWN SELBY AVENUE IT’S KIND OF MY FAVORITE DRAMA GO DOWN AND I WON’T BORE YOU FOR TOO LONG A PLAN NOT TO TALK TOO LONG I RUN DOWN THE CAPITAL OUT OF THE S O B UP THE HILL I JOHN IRELAND BOULEVARD PAST THE CATHEDRAL SAY A LITTLE PRAYER UP SELBY DOWN SELBY AN EILEIN ALL THOSE GREAT RESTAURANTS AND HIS BUSINESSES AND FOR CHAVEZ MANY M THE BUSINESSES MANY EMPTY BUILDINGS AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO UP TO LEXINGTON AVENUE THEM LEXINGTON PASS SUMMIT AND THEN SOME IT DOWN TO GRAND AVENUE AND THEN RUN GRAND SOME OF MY FAVORITE RESTAURANTS ARE IN GRAND AVENUE. LET ME READ BUT WE RE TAKE BACK SOME OF MY FAVORITE RESTAURANTS ARE IN WRIGHT COUNTY. AND IN DEVON ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY SOME OF THE FAVOR RESTAURANTS THAT I’VE HAD THE HONOR TO PARTICIPATE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS OR NOT THERE. AND A MATTER OF FACT LAST YEAR DURING GRAND OLE DAYS THERE ACTUALLY WAS ONE; BUT THERE WASN’T GOING TO BE ONE. IT WAS IN THAT REVIEW AND GRANDAL THESE ORGANIZATIONS STATED MADAM SPEAKER THAT THEY HAD TO CANCEL THE EVENT DUE TO THE STORE FRONTS EMPTY THE EMPTY STORE FRONTS AND GRAND AVENUE. AND IT STATES CITED IN THERE IN THE STERN SHOULD BE INTO THE BUSINESS OWNER SAID THE BECAUSE OF THE HIGH COST OF DOING BUSINESS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND THE HIGH COST OF PROPERTY TAXES. THEY SIMPLY COULDN’T SURVIVE. WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS BILL WILL DO TO EVEN MORE RESTAURANTS; MORE BUSINESSES. YOU CERTAINLY DRIVE MORE BUSINESS IS OUT. AS A BUSINESSMAN IN TOWN AS WELL FOR 33 YEARS IN THE DELANO IN A LITTLE START NICE TO YOU THAT MY FATHER STARTED 1956. I AGREE WITH REPRESENTATIVE BAKER IT IS OFFENSIVE A WEE BIT TO BE TOLD BY THE STATE AS TO HOW BEST TO TREAT MY EMPLOYEES AND WHAT KIND OF FUNDS I CAN DO. PUT INTO A PREMIUM TAX TO ENSURE THAT I TAKE GOOD CARE OF HIM AS IF I DON’T THAT’S UNFORTUNATE THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU THE GOVERNMENT’S THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE THINK YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I DO OR OTHER BUSINESS MEN AND WOMEN IN THIS BUILDING THAT’S TO BE REALLY SHAMEFUL IF YOU ASK ME. SO YOUR BILL WILL COST UP THE RISE; THE COST OF BUSINESS IS IT ALIVE REPLACE ROBUST; I MIGHT EVEN FIND A ROBOT TO REPLACE ME HERE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR; MAYBE A LITTLE CHEAPER. CERTAINLY BUT ALSO LOVE IS TO BE WAS HISTORY MATTERS IN MINNESOTA. AND WHAT THAT MEANS WITH 50 IF THIS BILL BECOMES LAW. THEY’LL BE MANY BUSINESSES AND MANY EMPLOYEES WILL BE HISTORY. IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. IT’S NOT A GOOD BILL IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. IT’S $2 BILLION TAX INCREASE. AND A VOICE AND WE JUST GOT TO PRAY THAT WERE NOT REPLACED BY ROBOTS BECAUSE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THE FREE MARKET WILL FIND A WAY TO DO IT BETTER AND CHEAPER AS WE HEAR IN THIS OFFICE IN THIS HOUSE THINK THAT WE KNOW BEST. TAX AND TAX AND TAX AND REGULATE BUSINESSES WRITE OUT A HISTORY OF THE MINNESOTA; I’LL BE VOTING. NO. MADAM SPEAKER. THE MEMBER FROM BLUE EARTH REPRESENTATIVE MONTHS AND. THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER MEMBERS; I’LL TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICK. I THINK A LOT OF THE ARGUMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE IN THIS FLOOR AGAINST THE BILL.>>PARKS VERY VALID BUT I KNOW WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE EMPLOYER SUFFERING UNDER THIS. BUT THIS IS REALLY A TAKING FROM THE EMPLOYEES. THIS IS A TAX PAID FOR BY THE EMPLOYEES TAKEN FROM THEIR WAGES AND EVEN THE SHARE THAT THE EMPLOYER PAYS COMES OUT OF THE COMPENSATION THAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE GONE TO THE EMPLOYEE. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE STATE WHO ARE SICK AND TIRED OF PAYING FOR SERVICES THEY CAN’T COLLECT. I WAS I’M SELF EMPLOYED I WORK FOR MY OWN COMPANY; SO I’M AN EMPLOYEE OF MY OWN COMPANY. AND I DO CONSULTING WORK FOR I CAN’T TAKE TIME OFF OF WORK FOR MY FOR MY CLIENTS. THE VIOLATION OF MY CONTRACT; THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SELF EMPLOYED IN THE STATE. AND THERE IS AN EXEMPTION FOR PEOPLE WHO PAY WHO AREN’T EMPLOYEES OF A THEIR OWN LLC OR ESCORT. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF MINNESOTANS WHO WORK FOR SMALL COMPANIES WHO CAN’T TAKE THE TIME OFF AND CONTINUE BUSINESS AND FOR THEM THIS IS JUST TAKING MONEY FROM THEIR PAYCHECKS SO THAT THEY CAN NEVER COLLECT. MADAM SPEAKER IF THE BILL’S AUTHOR DEAL FOR QUESTION.>>SHE WILL YOU REPRESENTATIVE MONTH SON.>>THANK YOU MEN. SPEAKER AND REPRESENTATIVE HELP US AND THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT NOT LEAVING THE FLOOR EXEMPTION HAS BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU; I’M ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS FOR THE. THE BENEFITS THAT ARE PAID BENEFITS I THINK IS WHAT YOU USED THE BENEFITS THAT ARE PAID TOO. THE EMPLOYEES TO TAKE TIME OFF. AND I SEE THAT THERE’S TABLE IN THE FISCAL NOTE THAT SHOWS I THINK OVER $1000 A WEEK; SOME ACTS 1077 SO WELL OVER $4;000 A MONTH. IS THE ARE THE BENEFITS THAT ARE PAID UNDER THIS PROGRAM TAXABLE OR THEY TAX FREE.>>REPRESENTATIVE HOW HER SON PUT MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENT THE MONTHS AND THEY’RE CONSIDERED INCOME REPRESENTATIVE MONTHS IN.>>THANK YOU MEN. A LOT OF INSURANCE BENEFITS OR NOT IT WAS UNCLEAR IN THIS BILL AND THEY’RE GOING TO BE TAXED OR NOT. BUT $4;000 A MONTH AND EVEN TAXABLE WAGES IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT AND REPRESENTATIVE LONG INVENTION THAT TO BE VERY VERY RARE FOR SOMEBODY TO HAVE AN OCCURRENCE. A QUALIFYING EVENT IS HE ONCE A YEAR ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS BILL IT ISN’T JUST THE BIRTH OF A CHILD OR A SICK FAMILY MEMBER. BUT ALSO FOR FOSTER PARENTS WHO. TAKEN A NEW CHILD THAT THIS WOULD ALSO BE A QUALIFYING EVENT FOR BOTH PARENTS. IN THAT THAT’S THAT’S AN INSTANCE OR SICK FAMILY MEMBER OR RELATIVE THAT THEY’RE TAKING CARE OF THAT CAN OCCUR MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR ON CERTAINLY WANT TO HEAR. AND THIS IS A BENEFIT THE PEOPLE WHEN THEY SEE IT IN THEIR PAYCHECK TAKEN OUT OF EVERY PAYCHECK. THIS IS A BENEFIT THAT THEY WANT TO GET THEIR MONEY. ♪>>WITH A SESSION DAILY UPDATE ON CHRIS CARPENTER; THERE ARE 3 BILL SCHEDULED FOR TODAY FOR THIS AFTERNOON’S HOUSE FLOOR SESSION. HOUSE FILE 5 REPRESENTATIVE LAURIE HALVERSON IS PAID FAMILY LEAVE PROPOSAL HOUSE FILE; 11 REPRESENTATIVE JON LESTER IS SICK AND SAFE TIME BILL AND REPRESENTATIVE GENE POPPIES HOUSE FILE; 2959; WHICH WOULD PROVIDE FUNDING TO THE RURAL FINANCE AUTHORITY. HOUSE FILE 5 IS TAKING A LONG WINDING ROAD TO GET TO THIS POINT INTRODUCED ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE 2019 SESSION; IT’S BEEN DISCUSSED BY MORE THAN A DOZEN COMMITTEES OR DIVISIONS. THE BILL WAS PART OF THE DIA FELLS VALUES AGENDA LAST SESSION. HERE’S REPRESENTATIVE LAURIE HALVERSON TALKING ABOUT HOUSE FILE 5 IN JANUARY 2019.>>WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT THERE ARE FOLKS WHO REALLY STRUGGLE. I’M TRYING TO THEIR EMPLOYMENT WHILE DEALING WITH A MAJOR ILLNESS WHILE DEALING WITH THE BIRTH OR ADOPTION OF A NEW CHILD. OR CARING FOR AN OR SICK RELATIVE; AND THE PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT IS A PROPOSAL THAT’S GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT MINNESOTANS HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE CARE AND THAT TIME THAT THEY NEED TO CARE FOR THEIR LOVED ONES TOO BOND WITH A NEW AND MAINTAIN THEIR EMPLOYMENT CAREERS AND THAT THESE EMPLOYERS ARE LOOKING FOR.>>THE BILL’S BEEN APPROVED MODIFIED AMENDED AND IS CURRENTLY IN ITS 4TH ENGROSSMENT ESSENTIALLY THAT ESTABLISHES A STATE-RUN INSURANCE PROGRAM THAT WOULD PARTIALLY REIMBURSE THE WAGES LOST WHEN A WORKER TAKES LEAVE FOR FAMILY OR MEDICAL ISSUES LAST MONTH THE RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE HOUSE WAYS MEANS COMMITTEE. BUT THE ARGUMENT REMAIN THE SAME HELGERSON OUTLINED WHY HER BILL IS NEEDED AND OPPONENTS SHARED WHY THE PROGRAM COULD HURT SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND BUSINESSES IN RURAL COMMUNITIES.>>MAYBE IT’S TIME TO MOVE IS BACK TO SOME COMMITTEES FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE HOW DO YOU GO BACK TO EMPLOYERS AND SAY WE’RE GOING TO TAKE WHO KNOWS WHAT MAY BE A BILLION DOLLARS YOUR MONEY LEAVE IT SIT THERE. FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEN WILL START PAYING OUT BENEFITS AND IN THE MEANTIME THESE EMPLOYERS ARE STRUGGLING.>>TO PAY THEIR BILLS; MINNESOTA WORKERS IN RURAL MINNESOTA MINNESOTA BUSINESSES ARE DOING JUST FINE. WITHOUT THIS BILL COMING FORWARD INTERRUPTING THEIR ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER AS THEY DO VERY WELL.>>REPRESENTATIVE JOHN; LESS SPONSORS ONE OF THE OTHER BILLS FOUND ON TODAY’S CALENDAR HOUSE FILE 11; THE EARNED SICK AND SAFE TIME PROPOSAL WOULD IMPART REQUIRE EMPLOYERS TO ALLOW EMPLOYEES TO EARN AT A MINIMUM ONE HOUR OF PAID TIME OFF FOR EVERY 30 HOURS WORKED UP TO AT LEAST 48 HOURS PER YEAR. LESS RECENTLY DESCRIBED WHY THE BILLS IN PORT.>>THERE’S THESE COMPOUND EFFECTS OF POVERTY THAT WE FAIL TO RECOGNIZE OUR AGENDA FOR DECRIMINALIZATION OF POVERTY. PRODUCTION OF FINES AND FEES BAIL-REFORM PROBATION REFORM FORFEITURE REFORM ALL THESE THINGS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT PIECES OF THE 3RD PIECE EARNED SICK AND SAFE LEAVE SOMETHING THAT IS AVAILABLE TOO. OVER HALF MINNESOTANS BUT NOT FOLKS AT THE LOWER END OF THE INCOME SPECTRUM FOOD SERVICE WORKERS CHILD CARE WORKERS. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WE NEED TO HAVE SICK DAYS; OK BECAUSE THEY’RE WORKING WITH THEIR KIDS.>>AND THEY’RE WORKING WITH THEIR FOOD; OK ANYONE WHO HAS YOUNG KIDS AT HOME UNDERSTANDS HOW MUCH YOU GET SICK. OKAY BECAUSE THEY BRING UP SO WE NEED TO PROVIDE THAT.>>WELL LESS ANOTHER DIA FELLERS FEEL IT’S AN IMPORTANT MEASURE THE ARGUMENT FROM OPPONENTS A SIMILAR TO THE ARGUMENT AGAINST HOUSE FILE 5. WHAT IS THIS GOING TO DO TOO SMALL AND RURAL BUSINESS OWNERS. HOUSE FILE; 29 59 IS THE 3RD BILL ON TODAY’S AGENDA REPRESENTATIVE GENE POPPIES BIPARTISAN PROPOSAL WE’RE PROVIDE FUNDING TO THE RURAL FINANCE AUTHORITY. THE RFA IS THE STATE’S MAIN AGRICULTURE LENDING ARM AND PROVIDES FINANCING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ELIGIBLE FARMERS. REMEMBER YOU CAN STAY UP TO DATE WITH EVERYTHING HAPPENING AT THE HOUSE OR READ ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AT THIS AFTERNOON’S HOUSE FLOOR SESSION WITH OUR NON PARTISAN SESSION DAILY COVERAGE AND HOW START AND THEN SLASHED SESSION DAILY. WE NOW JOIN MEMBERS ON THE FLOOR FOR THE START OF TODAY’S HOUSE FLOOR SESSION. ♪>>THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER. PRAYER BY THE CHAPLAIN.>>THE JEWISH SAGES THROUGHOUT TIME. GAVE US THIS ADVICE. THERE IS MORE TO CLIMATE THEN WEATHER. THE CLIMATE OF POLITICS CREATES THE WARMTH OF REPRESENTING CONSTITUENTS AND THIS GREAT STATE OF MINNESOTA. RESPECT FOR COLLEAGUES. WHO TOGETHER REPRESENT THE DIFFERENT HUGHES AND OBSERVANCES AND EXPERIENCES OF OUR PEOPLE. THE HUMAN PEOPLE. THE CLIMATE OF POLITICS REMINDS US THAT THE RAIN THAT BRINGS NEW GROWTH OF IDEAS AND POLITICAL ENGAGEMENT. THE DEW THAT SATURATES BIPARTISAN INITIATIVES IT’S THE FROST THAT SETTLES ON THE SURFACES OF HARD WORK. COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND FLOOR SESSIONS THEY GO INTO THE WEE HOURS OF THE NIGHT. THE DRIP OF ICICLES MELTING. HARDEN THE EU POINTS AND THE HUMAN AGGRESSION THAT FIGHTS TO WIN RATHER THAN FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT. CLIMATE IS MORE THAN WHETHER IT IS THE CLIMATE OF OUR SOCIETY WE FIND OURSELVES IN THE CLIMATE OF A NEW AND SCARY VIRUS THAT SHADOW OF THE 20 20 ELECTION; THE CLIMATE OF FIGHTING HATE THE CLIMATE AT THE UNKNOWN OF THE 21TH CENTURY. THE SAME WATER THAT SOFTENS POTATOES HARDEN’S AIDS. AS WE FIND OURSELVES EXISTING IN THIS SAME CLIMATE MAY WE BE LAST HARDENED BY SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HUMBLED TO FIGHT FOR OUR VALUES AND BELIEF IT’S BY SOFTENING OUR STANCE. IN ORDER TO FIGHT IDEAS AND NOT ATTACK THE PEOPLE WITH WHOM WE DISAGREE. CLIMATE IS MORE THAN WEATHER. YOU STAND IN THESE CHAMBERS IN THIS SAME CLIMATE YOU HAVE TO FACE EACH OTHER AT THE END OF THE DAY. AND SO LET US TOGETHER FIGHT FOR A BETTER MINNESOTA. A REAL HIGH TIDE OR NOT.>>AIELLO HEY NEW MALEKO LUNCH; A HAPPY ON TO THE I KNEW HE’D BE LIVES MUNHOZ SAID.>>AT THE LESS SAID ARE YOU THE ONENESS OF THE WEEK WORLD WHO GIVES US LIFE WHO SUSTAINS US AND IT’S BROUGHT US TO THIS HISTORIC MOMENT TOGETHER.>>THE CHAPLAIN FOR TODAY AS RABBI MARCIA ZIMMERMAN FROM TEMPLE ISRAEL IN MINNEAPOLIS MINNESOTA. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PLEASE REMAIN STANDING RECITES THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE CLERK WILL TAKE THE ROLE.>>THE CLERK WILL CLOSE THE ROLE.>>A COAL MINE NUMBER HER>>A QUORUM IS PRESENT. THE CLERK WILL READ THE JOURNAL OF THE PRECEDING DAY.>>THE JOURNAL OF THE HOUSE 90 FOR SESSION 2020 70TH DAY SAINT PAUL MINNESOTA WEDNESDAY; MARCH 4TH 2020.>>IF THERE’S NO OBJECTION FOR THE READING OF THE JOURNAL BE DISPENSED WITH AND THE JOURNAL WILL BE APPROVED AS CORRECTED BY THE CHIEF CLERK HEARING NO OBJECTION THE JOURNAL IS APPROVED HAS CORRECTED BY THE CHIEF CLERK. REPORTS OF STANDING COMMITTEES AND DIVISIONS A COPY OF THIS ORDER OF BUSINESS HAS BEEN PLACED ON EACH MEMBER’S DESK. THERE’S NO OBJECTION AIRPORTS WILL BE ADOPTED HEARING NO OBJECTION THE REPORTS ARE ADOPTED.>>SECOND HOUSE FILES AND ZACHARY HOUSE ON NUMBER 1149 RATING; SO HURRY HOUSE FALL 3072; 2ND RETIRING 30 TO 29 DEGREES OCCURRING HOUSE FELL 30 TO 40. I REALLY LIKE OR A HOUSE FIRE 3274 TO A HOUSE FULL OF 3316. I REALLY LIKE HER HOUSE FELL 3557; THANK YOU TO EVERY HOUSE FALL; 3618 FACTORY WORKER A HOUSE OFF 3630 TILL THEY REALLY LIKE OR A HOUSE OFF 3687 TO OCCUR IN HOW SAW 3772. REHOUSE FALL; 3819 SECONDLY; THE GREENHOUSE OFF 3911 SECOND READING.>>THE INTRODUCTION OF BILLS THE FOLLOWING HOUSE FILES HAVE BEEN OFFERED FOR INTRODUCTION TODAY; THE CHIEF CLERK WILL REPORT THE HOUSE FILES AND GIVE THEM THEIR FIRST READING INDUCTION A FIRST.>>TREATING A HOUSE FIRE 4158 TO 4225.>>FIRST READING HOUSE FILES 4158 TO 4225.>>MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE MADAM SPEAKER; BUT ALSO PASSES BY THE SIDE OF THE FOLLOWING SENATE FILE HERE WITH TRANSMIT IT SENT A PHONE NUMBER 3564 THE MESSAGE ASSIGNED CAL ARE LUMEN SECRETARY OF THE SENATE.>>FIRST READING OF SENATE FILES.>>FIRST READING SENT A FILE NUMBER 3564 OR AN ACT RELATING TO PUBLIC SAFETY TRANSFERRING MONEY TO THE DISASTER CONTINGENCY CAO POLASKI MOVE THAT SENT A FILE NUMBER 3564 AND HOUSE PHONE NUMBER 3633 NOW ON THE GENERAL REGISTER PREFER TO THE CHIEF PARK FOR COMPARISON.>>HARRY NO OBJECTION SO ORDERED. THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY; THE FIRST BILL ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY IS HOUSE FILE NUMBER 5 THE CLERK FOR MAPS WHEN A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY; REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT STATE YOUR PARLIAMENTARY INCREASE. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER.>>ON THIS JUST A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU ABOUT HOW THE CALENDAR WAS NORMALLY. OUR PROCEDURE IN THE HOUSE HAS BEEN WITH THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY IS APPROVED BY THE RULES COMMITTEE. THIS CALENDAR. THERE WAS AN E-MAIL SENT TO RULES COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON 07:23PM. ON MARCH 2ND. NOTIFYING US WITH WHAT WOULD BE ON THE CALENDAR; THE PROPOSED CALENDAR FOR THE DAY THAT THE RULES COMMITTEE WOULD BE TAKING UP. UNFORTUNATELY MANY OF US ALREADY KNEW THAT THIS PARTICULAR BILL WAS COMING UP BECAUSE EARLIER IN THE DAY AT MINNESOTA A F L C I O TWEETED OUT THAT THIS BILL WOULD BE ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY. SO MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS THERE SOME NEW PROCEDURE WHERE WE’RE GOING TO RELEASE TO OUR MAJOR DONORS WHICH BILLS WILL BE ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY. PRIOR TO LETTING THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE; AND ALL KNOW THAT I SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE A F L C I O WAS DONATED 219;000 $500 TO THE HOUSE SINCE AND I THINK MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE DESERVE TO KNOW FIRST WHICH BILLS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY; SO MADAM SPEAKER; IF YOU COULD LET ME KNOW IF THERE’S A NEW PROCEDURE. IT’S NOT A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY.>>A REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT YOU ARE NOT RAISING A POINT OF ORDER AND HAPPY TO GO TO YOU FIRST FIRST AS SOON AS WE REPORT THE BILL AND THEN YOU CAN DIRECT YOUR INQUIRY TO THE MINORITY LATE OR TO THE MAJORITY LEADER. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE BILL.>>HOWS HOW NUMBER 5 NUMBER ONE ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY AN ACT RELATING TO EMPLOYMENT THE 4TH ENGROSSMENT.>>REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT REQUEST; THE MAJORITY LEADER TO YIELD THE MAJORITY LEADER WILLIAM ACTUALLY MADAM SPEAKER I WASN’T REQUESTING THE MAJORITY LEADER YIELD I WAS MAKING A POINT A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY TO YOU THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE AND IF THERE’S A NEW PROCEDURE IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AS IT RELATES TO HOW A RELEASE OUR CALENDAR ARE PROPOSED CALENDARS FOR THE DAY OR THE RULES COMMITTEE AGENDAS.>>REPRESENTED THAT’S NOT A PARLIAMENTARY INCREASE; EITHER IT’S A POLITICAL QUESTION; IT’S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO ASK THE MAJORITY LEADER TO YIELD I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN OUR AUTHOR GOT THE FLU. WE LET EVERYBODY KNOW AS SOON AS SHE WAS WELL THAT WE WOULD DO THE BILL. AND SO I DON’T THINK WAS A GRAND MYSTERY; BUT I CAN’T ENGAGE IN DEBATE THESE ARE NOT PARLIAMENTARY INC 3 QUESTIONS NOR ARE THEY POINTS OF ORDER. THEY ARE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE MAJORITY LEADER TO YELL THAT HE WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER; I’D LIKE TO MAJORITY LEADER DEAL.>>HE WILL YOBE REPRESENTATIVE WINKLER.>>MADAME SPEAKER I DIDN’T HEAR A QUESTION FROM REPRESENTED OUT REPRESENT DOUBT. THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER AND THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE WINKLER AS I POINTED OUT FOR THE SPEAKER AND FOR THE REST OF THE CHAMBER; I’M TYPICALLY AS IS CUSTOMARY IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE FIND OUT WHAT BILLS ARE INTENDED TO BE ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY; THE FIRST PEEK THAT WE HAVE ON THAT IS WHEN THE E-MAIL GOES OUT FOR THE PROPOSED AGENDA FOR THE RULES COMMITTEE WHERE WILL BE APPROVING THE CALENDAR FOR THE DAY. THAT EMAIL WENT OUT AT 07:23PM ON MARCH 2ND. HOWEVER TWEET WENT OUT FROM A F L C I O THAT THESE BILLS WOULD BE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR; INCLUDING THIS HOUSE FILE AND THAT TWEET WENT OUT AT 04:39PM. NOW I KNOW THAT A F L C I O IS A BIG DONOR TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OVER A MILLION DOLLARS TO DEMOCRATIC IN THE LAST SINCE 2016 AND 202;005.>>100 REPRESENTATIVE WINKLER STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.>>A C SECTION 1.2 4 REPRESENTED THAT IS RAISING QUESTIONS THE MOTIVATIONS OF MEMBERS AND HE’S RAISING FURTHER QUESTIONS OF PROCEDURE IN COMMITTEE WHICH ARE NOT THE SUBJECT OF A DEBATE OR PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS ON THE HOUSE FLOOR.>>WEEKLY REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT I WILL NOT RULE AS IS THE CUSTOM AND PRACTICE OF THE HOUSE WENT UP MY ORDERS RAISED ON MOTIVES BUT I WOULD REMIND MEMBERS TO DEBATE THE SUBJECT MATTER AND NOT TO IMPUGN THE MOTIVES OF MEMBERS. REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT.>>THANK YOU MADAM AND MAYBE I CAN CUT TO THE CHASE. IT’S INCREDIBLY. YOU KNOW DISRESPECT FOR MAYBE IS A BETTER WORD FOR YOU TO NOTIFY. LABOR UNIONS WHO I KNOW ARE PUSHING YOU TO TO TO BRING THESE BILLS FORWARD BEFORE YOU LET THE MEMBERS OF THE MINNESOTA HOUSE KNOW WHAT BILLS WILL BE COMING UP FOR AND.>>I TAKE OFFENSE TO THE FACT THAT WE FIND OUT ABOUT THESE THINGS ONLINE ON TWITTER. BEFORE YOU TELL US. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE THE RESPECT OF OF JUST YOU KNOW THIS. THIS MAJORITY HAS FLIPPED FOR THE LAST 5 ELECTION CYCLES. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO REALLY WELL HERE IS TREAT EACH OTHER RESPECTFULLY WE’VE HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP THE SESSION I DO APPRECIATE THAT I DO FEEL AS THOUGH THIS WAS DISRESPECTFUL SO I WOULD APPRECIATE A REPRESENTATIVE WINKLER MADAME CHAIR IF HE WOULD YIELD AN APOLOGY TO THE CHAMBER IN JUST A COMMITMENT THAT GOING FORWARD YOU’LL NOTIFY US BEFORE YOU OUTSIDE GROUPS OF WHAT’S COMING ON THE HOUSE FLOOR.>>HE WILL YELLED REPRESENTATIVE WINKLER THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTATIVE DOUBT WE PROVIDED NOTICE CONSISTENT WITH THE RULES UNDER THAT COMMITTEE AND WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE YOU NOTICE ON THE RULES COMMITTEE BEFORE WE TALK TO SOMEBODY ELSE ABOUT THAT TIME AND OR DATE ON WHICH MAKE A BILL WILL BE BROUGHT UP I WOULD FURTHER REMIND YOU THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED CONSISTENT NOTICE TO THE RULES COMMITTEE AND 2 OTHER MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT BILLS ARE COMING UP WELL IN ADVANCE OF ANYTHING THAT HAS TYPICALLY BEEN PROVIDED TO THE MINORITY IN FACT WE DISCUSS THEM WITH YOU IN WEEKLY MEETINGS IN THE SPEAKER’S OFFICE. WE DO NOT HIDE THE BALL WE DO NOT HIDE INFORMATION. THERE IS NO ADVANTAGE TO ANYONE IN PROVIDING INFORMATION TO OUTSIDE GROUPS ABOUT WHAT BILLS ARE COMING UP BEFORE THERE’S AN OFFICIAL NOTICE THE TO THE RULES COMMITTEE. AND IN FACT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. THE NOTICE WENT OUT AT THE TIME IT DID A FAMILY MEMBER WAS ILL FOR ONE OF THE STAFF AND THE TIMING WAS STILL MORE THAN ADEQUATE UNDER THE RULES OF THE OF THE COMMITTEES SO I’M SORRY THAT YOU ARE OFFENDED. BY THIS FRANKLY I THINK THAT WE HAVE DONE MORE TO PROVIDE NOTICE INFORMATION TO THE MINORITY THAN HAS BEEN DONE IN MY TIME AT THE LEGISLATURE AND I’M SORRY. I GUESS THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD TREAT YOU THAT MUCH BETTER THAN YOU TREATED US.>>REPRESENTATIVE DON’T USE SOME OF THE FLOOR. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND REPRESENTATIVE WINKLER I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY THANK YOU.>>I RECOGNIZE THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL THE MEMBER FROM DAKOTA REPRESENTATIVE HALVORSON TO EXPLAIN THE BILL.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND MEMBERS AND I WILL APOLOGIZE THE SCHEDULING CHANGE ON THIS BILL EVERYBODY WAS HERE PREPARED TO DEBATE IT. A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND I GOT THE FLU THE NIGHT BEFORE WE WERE GOING TO DEBATE THAT. I HAVEN’T HAD THE FLU SINCE I WAS A KID AND DON’T RECOMMEND IT SO I DIDN’T WANT TO YOU ALL THE KIT. AND SO I STAYED TO GET BETTER. AND THAT MY KID GOT IT. SO IT’S BEEN AN EXCITING WEEK AT THE HOWEVER SON HOUSE AND IT FEELS SO APROPOS BUT TODAY I’M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHY WE NEED TIME TO CARE FOR OURSELVES AND OTHERS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. MEMBERS OF THE HOST OF A CAUCUS HAVE BEEN TRAVELING THE STATE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. TALKING TO MINNESOTANS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE FROM ALL POLITICAL PARTIES TO FIND OUT WHAT’S REALLY ON THE MINDS OF MINNESOTANS WE HEAR SO OFTEN IN OUR CAMPAIGNS AND GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND HERE AT OUR OFFICES. WHAT MINNESOTANS ARE FACING AND WE WANTED TO GO OUT TO MINNESOTANS AND AND TALK TO PEOPLE NOT WITH. PARTISAN LABELS NOT WITH GEOGRAPHIC LABELS BUT REALLY CONNECTING ABOUT WHAT MAKES US MINNESOTANS AND WHAT’S IMPORTANT TO US AS A STATE. WE LEARNED A LOT FOR MINNESOTANS WE HEARD THAT MINNESOTANS. THAT’S PROBABLY NOT A SURPRISE I HEAR A LOT OF LOVE FOR STAYED HERE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. WE ALSO HEAR THAT MINNESOTANS CARE A LOT ABOUT ONE ANOTHER AND THEY CARE A LOT THE SUCCESS AND THE SECURITY OF THEIR NEIGHBORS. BUT TO MANY MINNESOTANS DON’T HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE. TOO MANY MINNESOTANS FEEL IN SICK YOU’RE IN OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. AND WE HEARD THAT WHEN WE WENT OUT TO VISIT WITH PEOPLE TOO. DIDN’T MATTER IF YOU ARE LEFT OR RIGHT IF YOU ARE EARL OR FROM THE TWIN CITIES. FROM A SUBURB LIKE ME. THESE CONCERNS FOR MINNESOTANS WERE REAL AND CONSISTENT AND EVEN FOLKS WHO HAVE GOOD HEALTH CARE THIS IS TO ME IS ONE OF THE MOST SURPRISING THINGS WE HEARD HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE FEEL IN SECURE ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO KEEP IT AND CONTINUE TO HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE. AND A LOT OF THAT IS TIED TO THEIR WORK AND THEIR JOBS IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND THEIR LIVES ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEIR JOBS IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG IN THEIR LIVES ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP A PAYCHECK. WE ALSO KNOW THAT MINNESOTA FAMILIES ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE AND IT’S SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN THIS BODY. A LOT. WE ALSO KNOW THAT MINNESOTA FAMILIES CAN ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH CARE THAT THEY NEED AND VERY OFTEN ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO CHILDREN’S MENTAL HEALTH CARE THEY HAVE TO ACCESS HEALTHCARE OUTSIDE OF OUR STATE. ONLY TO LEARN. THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO WORK IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THEIR HEALTH CARE AND SAID TO BE WITH THEIR CHILD WHO IS HOSPITALIZED OUTSIDE OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. AND WE ALSO HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE AND THE SANDWICH GENERATION WHO ARE TOO FINDING IT REALLY HARD TO BE BE SURE THAT THEIR ELDERS ARE WELL CARED FOR WE HEAR ABOUT FINANCIAL ABUSE OF OLDER MINNESOTANS WE HEAR THE NEED FOR ALL THEIR MINNESOTANS TO HAVE TO SPEND TIME IN INSTITUTIONS AND RESPITE CARE INSTEAD OF BEING IN THEIR OWN HOME IF THEY HAVE A FALL BREAK A HIP GET YOU KNOW. MINNESOTANS ARE STRUGGLING. AND MINNESOTANS HAVE TOLD US REPEATEDLY HOW THEY’RE STRUGGLING. AND THEY’VE ASKED THE MINNESOTA LEGISLATURE TO TAKE ACTION. TO HELP RELIEVE THE STRUGGLE. TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN PROSPER. AND THAT THEY CAN ADVANCE THE WONDERFUL VALUES OF OUR STATE THAT WE CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER THAT WE LOVE OUR STATE. AND SO I’M REALLY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO BRING PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT TO THE FLOOR. WE’VE HEARD THIS. WE’VE HAD 10 Q 10. 11 COMMITTEE HEARINGS WE HAVE HAD A MANY HOURS DEBATE ON THIS WHEN IT WAS IN THE JOBS BILL LAST YEAR. BUT IT’S TO HAVE A A STAND-ALONE CONVERSATION IT IS THAT IMPORTANT. MINNESOTANS DESERVE ECONOMIC SECURITY MINNESOTANS WORK HARD MINNESOTANS WORKED MULTIPLE JOBS IN MANY CASES AND THEY DESERVE SECURITY FOR THEMSELVES AND FOR THEIR FAMILIES. SO HOUSE FILE 5 CREATES A PROGRAM OF AFFORDABLE ACCESS FOR ALL MINNESOTA EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE UP TO 12 WEEKS OF PARTIAL PUT WEIGHT REPLACEMENT IN THE CASE OF A QUALIFYING MEDICAL CONDITION. FOR 12 WEEKS OF UP UP TO 12 WEEKS TIME OFF FROM WORK. I’M PARTIAL WAGE REPLACEMENT; IF YOU NEED TO CARE FOR A LOVED ONE OR A FEW BRING A NEW BABY INTO YOUR FAMILY. THE PROGRAM IS BASED ON THE STATE’S VERY SUCCESSFUL YOU I UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE SYSTEM THAT’S BEEN IN PLACE FOR 80 YEARS. AND EMPLOYERS HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO SCALE THE PROGRAM HAS THERE NEEDS TO TO MEET THEIR NEEDS. SO AN EMPLOYER WHO CHOOSES TO PROVIDE A PRIVATE PROGRAM THROUGH PAID FAMILY LEAVE AS LONG AS IT’S CALM PROPONE PAYS OUT I’M IN THE SAME IN THE WAY CAN PROVIDE A PRIVATE PLAN AN OPT OUT OF A STATE PROGRAM. IF AN EMPLOYER HAS A SHORT TERM DISABILITY POLICY OR WANTS TO PURCHASE A IN THE PRIVATE MARKET A SHORT TERM DISABILITY POLICY THAT PAYS OUT AT THE SAME RATE OR GREATER. THEN THE STATE THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. HOWEVER; IF THEY PROVIDE HAVE THAT DON’T HAVE A FAMILY LEAVE PROGRAM IN PLACE THEY CAN OPT IN TO HALF THE PROGRAM. WHO DON’T HAVE THE ABILITY TO OFFER THIS BENEFIT ARE THE REASON THAT WE’RE HERE TALKING ABOUT IT IN LARGE PART BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SMALL AND PLAYERS IN THIS TIGHT LABOR MARKET WHO ARE TRYING REALLY HARD TO FIND A QUALIFIED SMALL TECH START-UPS WHICH MINNESOTA IS WELL KNOWN FOR WATCH POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES AND CURRENT EMPLOYEES WALK OUT THE DOOR TO A LARGE MINNESOTA EMPLOYER WHO CAN PROVIDE PAID FAMILY LEAVE. LARGE EMPLOYERS HAVE BEEN INVESTING IN PAID FAMILY LEAVE. FOR MANY MANY YEARS BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR EMPLOYEES. IT GIVES YOU A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE WHEN YOU’RE TRYING TO RETAIN EMPLOYEES THOSE FOLKS THAT YOU’VE INVESTED IN AND TRAINS. A LOT OF MINNESOTA SMALLER PLAYERS DON’T HAVE THAT ECONOMY OF SCALE AND ARE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEIR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE MEDICINES CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER. THEY VERY OFTEN WILL PAY FOR IT OUT OF THEIR OWN FAMILY’S BUDGET I’VE TALKED TO MANY EMPLOYERS HAVE DONE THAT. I HEARD MY EMPLOYER; MY EMPLOYEE WHO I LOVE AND HAS BEEN WITH US FOR YEARS HAD A BABY AND SHE NEEDED TIME OFF RECOVER FROM HAVING A BABY SHE NEEDED TIME OFF TOO CARE FOR HER BABY AND WE PAID FOR IT; BUT WE PAID FOR IT OUT OF OUR FAMILY BUDGET BECAUSE WE ARE A SMALL BUSINESS AND WE DIDN’T HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE. AND WE’VE TALKED TO EMPLOYERS WHO HAVE SAID I’VE GOT I’VE GOT SUCH DEDICATED EMPLOYEES THAT I CAN’T AFFORD TO LOSE THEM. THEY HAD A SLIP AND FALL ON THE GREAT ICE IN MINNESOTA. AND BROKE A BONE AND NEEDED TO RECOVER RECOVER FROM FROM THAT ACCIDENT AND FROM SURGERY. WE KNOW THAT MINNESOTA EMPLOYERS NEED TO BE COMPETITIVE IN THIS MARKET AND THIS PROVIDES THEM A WAY TO DO THIS. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY. WE KNOW THAT MINNESOTANS NEEDS TO FEEL ECONOMICALLY SECURE. WHEN THEY’RE AT WORK. MINNESOTANS NEED TO FEEL ECONOMICALLY SICK. YOU’RE TO BE GREAT PARENTS MINNESOTANS T TO FEEL ECONOMICALLY SECURE. TO PROSPER IN THEIR LIVES. AND THIS PROVIDES ECONOMICS IF YOUR SECURITY FOR MINNESOTA WORKERS FOR PEOPLE WHO GET UP AND GO TO WORK EVERY DAY AND WORK REAL HARD AND MIGHT HAVE A BAD RUN OF LUCK LET ME ASK IF YOU HAVE A BAD RUN OF LUCK LIKE ONE WOMAN WHO TESTIFIED AT OUR COMMITTEE WHO IS 35 YEARS OLD AND A TEACHER YOU’RE WHOSE HUSBAND WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A FATAL BRAIN TUMOR. AND SHE WANTED TO BE WITH HIM AND CARE FOR HER HUSBAND WHILE HE DIED. AND THE WITH THERE TOO. PRESCHOOL AGE CHILDREN AND HAVE THEIR FAMILY TOGETHER. WHILE HER HUSBAND DIED. SHE HAD TO GO TO WORK BECAUSE SHE COULDN’T AFFORD THAT TIME OFF THAT SHE CAN AFFORD TO LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE. WHAT DO WE TELL HER ABOUT HER JUGGLING HER NEED TO BE WITH HER HUSBAND WHOS GOING TO DIE. AND SAYING YOU DON’T GET TO SAY GOODBYE THE WAY IT WE WANT TO. BECAUSE WE’RE NOT GOING TO CARE ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC SECURITY. AND WHAT DO WE SAY TO THE MOM TO THE ONE IN FOR MOMS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. WHO HAVE A BABY AND GO BACK TO WORK WITHIN 2 WEEKS OF DELIVERY. WHAT DO WE SAY TO THEM ABOUT THEIR NEED TO BE HEALTHY ABOUT THEIR ECONOMIC SECURITY ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THEIR NEWBORN BABY. ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THEMSELVES. WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY MINNESOTA HAS REALLY REALLY BAD OUTCOMES RIGHT NOW MATERNAL HEALTH AND CHILDBIRTH AND WE LOOK AT OUR COUNTRY COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE WORLD; WE ARE ONE OF THE WORST IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD; I’M MATERNAL HEALTH AND BABIES WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTH OUTCOMES WHY. 2 OR 3 COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD; THE CHANGES FROM TIME TO TIME. THE TOWN OF PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE. WE DON’T HAVE TIME TO CARE. FOR BRAND NEW BABIES. WE DON’T HAVE TIME FOR MOMS. TO GET TO BOND WITH THEIR BABY TO MAKE SURE THAT CAN NURSE IF THEY CHOOSE TO. TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN PHYSICALLY RECOVER FROM GIVING BIRTH. EVERYBODY STOP AND THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN YOUR LIFE FOR YOURSELVES WHO HAVE HAD TO DO THAT WORK. ARE WE OK WITH A MOM GOING BACK TO WORK IN 2 WEEKS. AND DO WE TELLER THAT HER ECONOMIC SECURITY AND HER HEALTH. AND THE WELFARE OF HER CHILD IS NOT IMPORTANT. AND WHAT WE SAY. THE PERSON IN GREATER MINNESOTA WHERE WE FIND ACCORDING TO THE ORISSA MINNESOTA. THESE POLICIES ARE LESS AVAILABLE AND MORE NEEDED. WHEN THEY GET A CANCER DIAGNOSIS. AND INSTEAD OF GETTING TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES RECOVER FROM CHEMO TREATMENT WHICH IS ANYBODY HAS BEEN THROUGH IT; I KNOW PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE. INSTEAD OF DOING THAT AND STAYING AWAY FROM CO-WORKERS WHO COULD GET THEM SICK AND GIVE GIVE THEM AN INFECTION THAT WOULD KILL THEM. INSTEAD OF SAYING WE’RE GOING TO CARE ABOUT YOUR HEALTH AND YOUR WELL-BEING AND YOUR ECONOMIC SECURITY. WE’RE GOING TO GIVE THEM NO OPTION BUT TO GO INTO WORK AND RISK THEIR LIVES. THE ECONOMIC SECURITY OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. THE MINNESOTA WAY MINNESOTA CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER AND SO HOUSE FILE 5 IS HERE BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT OUR WORKERS. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE SURE THAT OUR EMPLOYERS CAN COMPETE FOR TALENT RIGHT HERE IN OUR STATES. AND WE NEED TO BE SURE. THAT EVERYBODY IN MINNESOTA HAS THE TIME TO CARE. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. THERE’S AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT.>>THE 4TH AND GIRLS FROM THIS FOLLOWS THE AMENDMENT IS COATED A 23 REPRESENTATIVE HOW HER SON TO YOUR AMENDMENT.>>THANK YOU MADAM AND MEMBERS THIS AMENDMENT IS A TECHNICAL IN ORDER UPDATE THE BILL FROM LAST YEAR.>>BECAUSE DID>>PASS IT THROUGH A BOTH BODIES LAST YEAR AND WE’RE BRINGING IT BACK SO WE’RE JUST MAKING A CONSISTENT SELF CHANGING SOME DATES AND UPDATING THE DOLLARS.>>ANY DISCUSSION TO THE AMENDMENT. SEEING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED POLICE SAY NO THE MOTION PREVAILS AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED THERE’S ANOTHER AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.>>THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE RUNBECK THOSE 2 MEN HOUSE PHONE NUMBER 5 THE 4TH ENGROSSMENT AS AMENDED. THE AMENDMENT IS CALLED IT A 26.>>THE MEMBER FROM ANOKA REPRESENTATIVE RUN BACK. THANK YOU; MADAM WE’RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF FINE SPEECHES TODAY; I HAVE A FEELING BUT I HAVE OF A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL. QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS WHICH WE’LL HARD HIT ON OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND EMPLOYEES AS WELL BECAUSE WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A $2 BILLION EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEE EMPLOYER TAX. AND SO WOULD SWITCH TO YIELD A MAN SPEAKER SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE RUN BACK. AND THANK THAT A SPEAKER SO I THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ARE. WAS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY AND DID THIS DID THE AUTHOR TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE STATE ECONOMIST TAKE A LOOK AT REALLY THE IMPACT OF THIS BILL ON THE STATE’S ECONOMY; INCLUDING SOME OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WAS THAT REVIEWED AND REPRESENT HOW HER SON.>>MADAM CHAIR AND REPRESENTATIVE RUN BACK AND LOTS OF REVIEW HAS BEEN DONE THIS. THIS IS GONE OVER 10 COMMITTEES AND I HAVE TALKED TO EXTENSIVELY WITH AREAS OF OF OUR STATE GOVERNOR MEANT FIND OUT WHAT THE IT AND MANY INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT OF THE SPILL WE ALSO REAMS OF DATA THAT WE HAVE COLLECTED BECAUSE IN 2015 THE LEGISLATURE ASKED THE UNIVERSITY MINNESOTA TO ANALYZE HOW WE COULD PROVIDE PAID FAMILY LEAVE IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA NOT IF HOW WE PROVIDE PAID FAMILY LEAVE IN MINNESOTA AND THROUGH THAT RESEARCH WE HAVE DISCOVERED THAT THERE’S GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO OUR STATE WE’RE GOING TO HAVE BETTER HEALTH CARE OUTCOMES AND THE COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SIR SIDNEY; THE COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA TESTIFIED THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE BETTER HEALTH CARE OUTCOMES FOR MOMS AND BABIES. WE ARE GOING TO SEE REDUCED USE OF PUBLIC PROGRAMS BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN’T GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE THEIR JOBS AND GO ON PUBLIC PROGRAMS AND GONE PUBLIC AND YOU KNOW HEALTH CARE IN ORDER TO GET THEIR NEEDS MET. THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE ECONOMIC SECURITY. WE HAVE TESTIMONY THAT AGAIN FROM THE COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE FEWER ADMISSION FREE ADMISSIONS TO THE HOSPITAL. IF PEOPLE DON’T HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK BEFORE THEY’RE READY AND GET AN INFECTION. I’M A GET GET FURTHER SICK; WE’RE GOING TO SEE LESS NEED FOR RESPITE CARE IN NURSING HOMES. AND WE KNOW THAT NURSING HOMES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE PLACE TO GET CARE. IT FOR SHORT TERM CARE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY TO THEIR MOM. I CAN SPEND A FEW WEEKS A FEW MOM MAKING SURE THAT YOU’RE RECOVERING FROM SURGERY. WE’VE TALKED TO THE DEPARTMENT MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET EXTENSIVELY ON MIKE A BILL A FEW YEARS AGO CHANCE SPEAK GIVE.>>THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM BACK REPRESENTED HOW HER SON HAS THE FLOOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION REPRESENT HOW HER SON.>>THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR; I TALKED TO COMMISSIONER OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET AND STAFF AT THE DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET WHO ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANALYSIS FOR THE IMPACT PAID FAMILY LEAVE FOR STATE WORKERS HAS HAD ON THEIR ABILITY TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN EMPLOYEES AND THE POSITIVE BENEFITS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN FOR STATE WORKFORCE; EVERYBODY FROM ENGINEERS TO YOU KNOW FOLKS WHO ARE PROVIDING HEALTH CARE. WE ARE BETTER RESULTS WITH THAT SO THERE IS THEN EXTENSIVE. DISCUSSION ON THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF THAT. IN ADDITION WE ALSO KNOW THAT IN OTHER STATES THAT HAVE DONE THIS THE INCREASE IN WORKFORCE PARTICIPATION IS SIGNIFICANT. CALIFORNIA SAW 10 TO 17% GREATER WORKFORCE; PARTICIPATION AMONG WOMEN SO THE BENEFITS AND THE ECONOMIC HIM PACKED ARE BRIGHT AND POSITIVE FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.>>A REPRESENTATIVE FROM BACKED. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER REALLY DIDN’T ASK ABOUT THE BENEFITS I ASKED ABOUT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. SO I’M ASSUMING WE DON’T KNOW AND HERE WE ARE TODAY WE’RE GOING TO AS A MASSIVE HIT ON OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY ON EVERY EMPLOYEE IN THE ENTIRE STATE TO BILLION DOLLAR TAX INCREASE. THAT’S WHAT MY AMENDMENT IS ASKING AS WE NEED TO STOP BEING IN DENIAL ALL THAT THAT TAXES AND GREATER REGULATIONS RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH TO DO BUSINESS DOES NOT HARM THE ECONOMY THAT COULD THE THAT’S FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS OF INSISTED NOBODY MAKES DECISIONS BASED ON INCREASED TAXES OR INCREASE REGULATIONS. WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT IT AND BEING BEING REAL ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING. SO THIS AMENDMENT SAYS START COLLECTING DATA SO THAT WE KNOW AS THE STATE WHAT IS HAPPENING. WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS BECAUSE WE’RE GOING TO LOSE JOBS. THE STATE IS GOING TO LOSE REVENUE WE’RE GOING TO LOSE EMPLOYERS THEY CAN JUST GO ACROSS THE STATE LINE IT WILL BE THE ONLY STATE IN THE NATION TRYING TO BUILD A BRAND NEW GOVERNMENT INSURANCE BUREAUCRACY. TAKING OVER FROM BUSINESSES WHAT THEY HAVE DONE SO WELL IN THE PAST. THEY DELIVER FRINGE BENEFITS AND MOST OF THEM DO; GOSH DARNED GOOD JOB AT IT SO. THE AMENDMENT WOULD SIMPLY SAY LET’S FIND OUT LET US NOT BE IN CONTINUAL DENIAL WHICH THE DEMOCRATS INSIST PLEASE SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION TO THE AMENDMENT REPRESENT HOW HER SON.>>MADAM CHAIR; I ASK MEMBERS TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT; IT’S I ACTUALLY RAN IT IT DID IN SOME OTHER STATE AGENCIES IT’S REALLY NOT WORKABLE.>>DEEP COLLECTS A LOT OF DATA EMPLOYERS IN OUR STATES. A REASON THAT HOUTHI PEOPLE WHO OPEN BUSINESSES PEOPLE WHO CLOSED BUSINESSES SO THIS DATA IS BEING COLLECTED BUT I THINK THAT IT THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE IT ECONOMICALLY SUCCESSFUL STATE TRY TO TO TO NARROW THE REASONS FOR BUSINESSES. LOST THEIR BUSINESSES GAMES. TO REASON IT’S REALLY NOT A FEASIBLE. AMENDMENT SO PLEASE VOTE NOW.>>FURTHER DISCUSSION THE MEMBER FOR MY SANITY REPRESENTED OUT.>>THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER MEMBERS; I’M I’M ACTUALLY KIND OF SURPRISED I THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE AN AMENDMENT THAT THE MAJORITY WOULD IF THIS BILL DOES WHAT YOU SAY IT’S GOING TO DO AND IT’S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR ECONOMY INTO THE BUSINESS ISN’T TO THEIR EMPLOYEES. GOSH I WOULD THINK YOU’D WANT TO SEE THE AND IT YOU KNOW IT THE LANGUAGE AND THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE RUN BACK FOR FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND TO CORRECT THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL; I’M JUST SIMPLY SAYS YOU KNOW TO THE EXTENT PRACTICABLE AND PROBABLY 5 LOCATIONS IN THE AMENDMENT SO I’M YOU KNOW I THINK IT’S WISE THAT WE LOOK AT WHAT THE IMPACT OF THE LEGISLATION THAT WE PASS IS NOW IF YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT IS CERTAINLY YOU SHOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS IF YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO DRIVE BUSINESSES OUT OF THE STATE OR IF IT’S GOING TO MEAN A LOSS OF EMPLOYEES AND JOBS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA IF YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW THAT THEN A NO VOTE AS IS THE RIGHT VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT BUT IF YOU THINK YOUR YOUR BILL IS GOING HELP AND YOU THINK THAT IT’S GOING TO CREATE JOBS AND GROW OUR ECONOMY AND STRENGTHEN OUR EMPLOYERS. THEN I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD ADOPT. AND FRANKLY FOR THOSE OF US WHO THINK THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND WE SHOULD TO FIND OUT IF IF OUR. BILLS IN OUR IDEAS ARE GETTING THE RESULTS THAT WE DESIRE. THIS IS THE SORT OF THING THAT WILL DO THAT THIS WILL GENERATE THE REPORTS WHICH WILL TELL US HEY IS THIS WORKING OR NOT AND IF IT’S NOT WORKING WE SHOULD COME BACK NEXT YEAR IN AND FIX OR THE NEXT YEAR. BUT YOU KNOW BY SAYING WE DON’T WANT TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION. I’M ACTUALLY IS KIND OF KIT ACTUALLY KIND OF CONFUSING TO ME I KNOW WHY WE WOULDN’T WANT MORE INFORMATION. SO WHAT YOU DO MEMBERS IF YOU VOTE AGAINST YOU’RE VOTING AGAINST HAVING INFORMATION ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION WILL BE EFFECTIVE AND WHETHER IT WILL ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT WE WANTED TO I FOR ONE WANT TO KNOW IS THIS GOING TO COST JOBS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA IF NOT GREAT. THAN WE SHOULD KNOW THAT TOO. BUT THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE RUN BACK FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND I THINK THIS IS THE SORT OF LANGUAGE WE SHOULD HAVE FRANKLY AND EVERY BILL THAT PASSES.>>THE MEMBER FOR MAMA SHOT REPRESENTATIVE BRISCOE SKI.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER WITH THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL YOU.>>SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE DRESS KOSKI THINK.>>MADAM SPEAKER OF SO REPRESENTATIVE HALVORSON A I’VE BEEN ASKED THE QUESTION A LITTLE MORE POINTED THAN REPRESENT RUN BACK DID. I DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THIS BILL WILL TAKE FROM THE PAYCHECKS OF MINNESOTA WORKERS PER YEAR.>>REPRESENTATIVE HOW HER SON. MADAME SPEAKER; I’M REPRESENTATIVE JUST IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU’RE HOW MUCH IT’S GOING TO COST TO PROVIDE ECONOMIC SECURITY AND JOB PROTECTION FOR MINNESOTA WORKERS IF THEY ARE SICK OR INJURED OR IF THEY HAVE A BABY AND I’VE GOT AN ANSWER FOR YOU. FOR WORK; THERE’S IT’S ABOUT THE 3 TENTHS OF ONE PERCENT OF THEIR WAGES FOR EMPLOYERS THEY MATCH IT AT 3 TENTHS OF ONE PERCENT OF THEIR WAGES. YOU DO THE MATH ON AVERAGE WAGES IN MINNESOTA ABOUT A CUP COFFEE A WEEK FOR EMPLOYEES. AND I’M HERE TO TELL YOU I THINK THAT MINNESOTA WORKERS ARE WORTH A CUP OF COFFEE A WEEK. I THINK MINNESOTA’S ECONOMIC SECURITY IS WORTH A CUP OF COFFEE A WEEK I THINK HEALTHY MOMS AND BABIES. WORTH A CUP OF COFFEE A WEEK. REPRESENTATIVE JUST KOSKI.>>THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER; THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE HALVORSON REPRESENT HALVORSON MINNESOTA WORKERS ARE NOT IN THEY WOULD SIMPLY LIKE TO HAVE THE MONEY THAT THEY EARN AND THEY WORK HARD FOR EVERY DAY BE ABLE TO TAKE IT USE IT FOR THEIR FAMILY SO THEIR FAMILY HAS SECURITY RATHER THAN THE GOVERNMENT SECURITY THAT YOU’RE TRYING TO BRING HERE TO MINNESOTA GOVERNMENT AS A MATTER OF FACT THIS BILL INCREASES THAT TACK. THIS MINNESOTA WORKERS BY 10% A 10% INCREASE IN TAXES. $1 BILLION YOU ARE STEALING FROM THE PAYCHECKS OF MINNESOTA WORKERS WITH THIS BILL. REPRESENT HALVORSON THAT’S NOT INSIGNIFICANT MINNESOTA WORKERS NEED THAT MONEY SO THAT THEY CAN RAISE THEIR KIDS PAY THEIR BILLS AND DO THE THINGS THAT THEY’D LIKE TO DO THE THINGS THAT THIS BIG OPPRESSIVE MINNESOTA GOVERNMENT. THE YOU SEEM SO BENT ON BUILDING EVEN BIGGER IS SUPPRESSING. TODAY. MASS SPEAKER WITH THE AUTHOR THE BILL YOU ONE MORE TIME.>>SHE WILL YELLED REPRESENTATIVE JUST KOSKI.>>THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER IS OUT OF OUR SON. HOW MANY JOBS WILL THIS BILL KILL.>>REPRESENTATIVE HOW HER SON. MAN AND THE MADAM SPEAKER; AND REPRESENTATIVE JUST GO.>>THIS BILL AND WHEN WE’VE SEEN OTHER STATES AND 8 OTHER STATES HAVE TAKEN THIS ON AT MOST RECENTLY A WASHINGTON STATE IS ROLLING OUT A SUCCESSFUL PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE PROGRAM IN THEIR STATE. AND THE RESULTS HAVE THEN BETTER JOBS BETTER SECURITY BETTER EMPLOYER ATTENTION.>>AND MORE CALM; BUT NO MORE.>>ABILITY FOR SMALL EMPLOYERS TO COMPETE WITH LARGE EMPLOYERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES THAT THEY CAN GET THE TALENT THAT THEY NEED IN THEIR WORKFORCE.>>REPRESENTATIVE TRUST CO SKI.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER; THANK REPRESENT HOWEVER; SOME YOU HEARD AT THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL ACTUALLY BELIEVES AFTER STATE GOVERNMENT TAKES FROM EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES ONE 0.8 BILLION DOLLARS BIENNIUM THAT THE BIG EMPLOYERS ARE GOING TO TURN AROUND AND CREATE BIGGER AND BETTER JOBS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. THAT’S WHAT THE AUTHOR THE BILL IS TRYING TO SELL US HERE TODAY MEMBERS. THAT’S WHY REPRESENT HAVE RUN BACKS AMENDMENT MAKES A GREAT DEAL OF SENSE. THAT’S ALSO WHY THIS BILL IS MISGUIDED TO BEGIN WITH. BUT MADAM SPEAKER; THANKS FOR YOUR INDULGENCE REPRESENT RUN BETTER. REPRESENTATIVE HOWEVER SON YOUR BILL IS GOING TO KILL A LOT OF JOBS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. THE EMPLOYERS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE TAXATION THAT THIS BIG GOVERNMENT IS FORCING ON THEM. AND IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT WORKERS; YOU’D WITHDRAW THIS BILL TODAY BECAUSE THOSE STATE WORKERS THOSE WORKERS IN OUR STATE. THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN FAMILIES INSTEAD OF. A BIG OVERLY BENEVOLENT GOVERNMENT SOMEHOW TRYING TO LOOK AFTER THEM AFTER IT STEALS THEIR MONEY FROM THEM IF YOU THINK THAT’S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE INTERESTED IN YOU’RE COMPLETELY WRONG. THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER.>>THE MEMBER FROM ANOKA REPRESENTATIVE RUN BACKED; THANK YOU MAN; I’M SURE I’D LIKE A RULE COMPANIES REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK REQUEST A ROLL CALL SEEING 15 HANDS THERE WILL BE A ROLL CALL ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION TO THE AMENDMENT. SEEING NONE THE CLERK WILL TAKE THE ROLE. THE CLERK WILL CLOSE THE ROLE. THEY’RE BEING 56 AYES AND 73 NAYS THE MOTION DOES NOT PREVAIL THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPT.>>THERE ARE NO FURTHER AMENDMENTS THAT THE DEATHS THE CLERK WILL GIVE THE BILL ITS 3RD READING.>>AND READING HOUSE ALL NUMBER 5 AS A MAN THAT.>>3RD READING AS AMENDED ACT DISCUSSION TO THE BELL. REPRESENTATIVE THE MEMBER FROM SCOTT REPRESENTATIVE OLGA.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER PLEDGE REMEMBER THAT I’M HERE I VERY SELDOM GET UP HERE. I’VE SEEN THIS BILL NOW IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OVER THE SEEMS LIKE LONGER; BUT PROBABLY A YEAR. AND I REALLY THINK IT IS WELL INTENTIONED AND THERE IS DEFINITELY ARE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IS THE LEGISLATURE. BUT I’M ALSO VERY CONCERNED WITH WHAT WE’RE DOING HERE AND BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL. THIS IS BEING REFERRED TO AS A PREMIUM. FROM WHAT I SEE IT’S A TAX. SO WE’RE ADDING ANOTHER EMPLOYER TAX THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THAT AS YOU GO THROUGH THE FISCAL NOTE; NOT A LOT OF THIS SOUNDS LIKE. INSURANCE PREMIUM POLICY TYPE THING IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE A TAX. THE SECOND THING WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IS THIS BILL HAS GOT TO PARK. IT’S IT’S GOT THE PREMIUM MECHANISM TO BRING ABOUT PAYMENTS TO PEOPLE. BUT IT ALSO HAS A LOT OF NEW POLICY. AND HAVING RUN A BUSINESS I RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF TIMES THE REGULATORY COST TO A BUSINESS. ALMOST EXCEEDS THAT OF A OF ATTACK. SO AS WE LOOK THROUGH THIS BILL I THINK WE HAVE TO BE COGNISANT THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE ADDING TO THE EMPLOYMENT COST WITH THE POINT OH 6. BUT WE’RE OUT ACTUALLY ADDING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REGULATION WHICH IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE PICKED UP BY EMPLOYERS. WONDERING I’M ADAM A SPEAKER IF THE BILL AUTHOR WOULD YIELD.>>REPRESENT OUR SON WILL YIELD REPRESENT VOGEL.>>AND I THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. REPRESENTATIVE HELGERSON AS I LOOK THROUGH THIS REFERS TO PREMIUM A LOT. IS THIS A PREMIUM OR IS IT A TAX.>>REPRESENTATIVE HOWEVER SON REPRESENTATIVE.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENT A VOCAL THE BILL AND>>THE POLICY WERE MODELED ON MINNESOTA’S UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE; MINNESOTA STARTED PROVIDING UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE ABOUT 80 YEARS AGO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ECONOMIC SECURITY TO PEOPLE WHO FOUND OUT OF A JOB FOR TEMPER A PERIOD OF TIME AND NEEDED A BRIDGE AND SO THE SUCCESS OF THAT PROGRAM THE UNIVERSITY OF DETERMINE THAT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD MODEL FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. SO IT WAS WRITTEN. TO MODEL THE WAY THAT WE PAY FOR UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE SMALL PREMIUM.>>REPRESENTATIVE VOGEL THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER I GUESS WE DIDN’T HEAR IS AT A PREMIUM OR IS IT A TAX BECAUSE THERE’S 2 DISTINCT DIFFERENCES. CAN I’D LIKE TO CLARIFY WHAT IT IS. IF I’M REPRESENTATIVE HELGERSON WOULDN’T YIELD AGAIN PLEASE. SHE WILL YELLED REPRESENTATIVE HOW HER SON AT MADAME SPEAKER>>DID CLARIFY THE BILL CLEARLY STATES. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER IF SHE WOULD YIELD AGAIN. SHE WILL YELLED THANK YOU. AND AS YOU’RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR BEING ON COMMERCE WHEN WE COME>>WITH NEW INSURANCE PRODUCTS GENERALLY THEY HAVE A AN ACTUAL WARILY ASSESSMENT AND I REALIZE THAT THERE WAS SOME STUDIES DONE THAT WERE USED TO BUILD A FISCAL NOTE BUT I’M WONDERING HOW MANY ACTUARIES WERE THEY INVOLVED IN THIS WOULD PROVE THE ACCURACY OF THE ASSUMPTIONS.>>REPRESENTATIVE HALVORSON MADAM SPEAKER THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY THE DEPARTMENT OF A EMPLOYMENT ECONOMICS.>>PURITY OF THE IMPLANT AND DEPARTMENT OF MEN ALL THAT ECONOMIC AND ANALYSIS ON THIS BILL; SO I DIDN’T THEIR ACTUARIES THANK YOU MADAM.>>A SPEAKER SO IF SHE WOULD YIELD AGAIN; I’M ASSUMING THEM THAT THERE WAS NO ACTUAL ACTUARY THAT ACTUALLY REVIEW ASSUMPTIONS.>>REPRESENTATIVE HALVORSON MANISTEE CORRUPT AND ABOVE ALL AS THEY SAY THAT I CAN’T SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE THE DID THE REPRESENTATIVE THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER.>>I’D LIKE TO THEN MOVE ON A SONG AS WE’RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS IS A THAT IN HIM IN THE INSURANCE POLICY. IF THE AUTHOR BUT YIELD AGAIN PLEASE.>>SHE WILLIAM GO.>>TO A REPRESENTATIVE HELGERSON COULD YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF ANY INSURANCE COMPANY THAT HAS EVER STARTED A NEW POLICY THAT HAS CHARGED A PREMIUM HOLDERS FOR ONE AND A HALF YEARS BEFORE A CLAIM SO THEY COULD BUILD THEIR RESERVES.>>REPRESENTATIVE HOW HER THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTATIVE WELL AGAIN THIS IS BASED ON UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE AND IT IS.>>IT WOULD UNWISE FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA TO BEGIN P TO A PROGRAM. THAT. THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF MINNESOTANS NEED BECAUSE THEY LEAVE ALMOST HALF A BILLION DOLLARS OF WAGES ON THE TABLE TAKING UNPAID LEAVE. IT WOULD BE ON WISE FOR THE STATE NOT TO MAKE SURE THAT FUND WAS AVAILABLE. BUT THE MONEY THAT’S COLLECTED IN THE FUND GOES OUT TO EMPLOYEES.>>REPRESENTATIVE VOGEL THANK.>>MADAM SPEAKER; BUT SPEAKING WHAT I HAVE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF INSURANCE EXPERIENCE AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN AN INSURANCE COMPANY COME INTO THE MARKET AND SAY LET’S TAKE IT FOR INSTANT COMING OUT WITH A NEW HOMEOWNERS POLICY YOU’RE GOING TO PAY A PREMIUM FOR A YEAR AND A HALF ON THAT HOMEOWNERS POLICY. BUT YOU CAN’T FILE A CLAIM UNTIL 18 MONTHS AFTER YOU HAVE TO PAY THOSE PREMIUMS. TO LEGISLATORS AND THAT’S WHAT THIS IS DOING IF YOU LOOK AT THE FISCAL NOTE; YOU’LL SEE THAT THE MONEY IS BEING COLLECTED FOR A YEAR AND A HALF HALF BEFORE ANYBODY CAN SUBMIT A CLAIM BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BUILD UP A RESERVE AND I AGREE THAT IT ONLY PRUDENT TO HAVE THAT RESERVE THERE. IT IS RATHER UNFAIR WHEN WE BUILD THAT RESEARCH OR OFF OF PREMIUMS THAT ARE BEING PAID BY PEOPLE WHO MAY NEVER HAVE A CHANCE TO COLLECT. AND THE EXAMPLE I WOULD USE YOU MAY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT’S IN THEIR MID OR LATE 6 THESE THAT PAYS INTO THIS THEY TURN 69 OR 70 DECIDE TO COLLECT SOCIAL SECURITY RETIRE. THEY PAID FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. THEY’VE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO COLLECT ON ANY OF THIS BECAUSE IT WON’T PAY AND NOW THEY’RE NOT EMPLOYED ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY’RE RETIRED SO I’D ASK YOU AS YOU LOOK THROUGH THE US TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU THINK IT’S FAIR THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR A YEAR AND A HALF BEFORE THEY ANOTHER THING I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF PAGE 8 ON THE FISCAL NOTE. YOU’LL NOTICE THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSE CAN RUN UP TO 7%. NOW THE INTERESTING THING IS HERE THAT THERE’S GOING TO BE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES PAID OUT OF THIS SPECIAL RESERVE FUND AGAIN BEFORE ANYBODY COUSIN CAN CLASS. SO WE GO BACK TO OUR TYPICAL INSURANCE COMPANY. IF PAYTON FOR A YEAR AND A HALF OF YOUR PREMIUM MONEY YOU CAN’T MAKE A CLAIM. BUT ALSO SOME OF YOUR MONEY IS ALREADY GONE INTO ADMINISTRATION. I JUST THINK THERE’S A FAIRNESS POINT HERE THAT HAS TO BE EXPLORED BECAUSE I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT ANYBODY IN THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY WOULD GET AWAY WITH THIS. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE RATES THAT ARE BEING CHARGED YOU’LL NOTICE IN MY NERDY MANNER I CREATED A SPREADSHEET THAT SOME BEEN SPREAD AROUND. AND THE REASON I DID THIS A FELLOW REPRESENTATIVES IS BECAUSE I ASKED FOR THIS THING TO BE STRESSED BECAUSE AS WE KNOW THERE’S NO ACTUARY THAT HAS SIGNED OFF ON THIS AND THESE ASSUMPTIONS. THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE BASED ON 2 STUDIES DONE BY 2 UNIVERSITIES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FISCAL NOTE; YOU’LL SEE QUITE A FEW MESSAGES SAYING WE’VE USED THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE THEY’RE THE ONLY THING WE HAVE AVAILABLE. I CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SPREADSHEET THAT I CIRCULATED. AND YOU’LL NOTICE IN THAT TOP LEFT-HAND CORNER THOSE ASSUMPTIONS MATCH THE ASSUMPTIONS IN THE FISCAL NOTE. IF YOU LOOK BELOW AND THAT LITTLE BOXED AREA. THE ASSUMPTION FOR MATERNITY SAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE ONLY GOING TO TAKE OFF 8.3 WEEKS. QUIST A FEW EMPLOYEES AND A FEW PEOPLE I KNOW AND SAID IF YOU’RE ENTITLED TO A 0.3 EARNED 12 WEEKS. WOULD YOU CHOOSE 8.3 YEAR. WELL; NOT SURPRISINGLY MOST OF THEM ALL OF THEM HAVE SAID I’LL TAKE THE 12 WEEKS. THE SAME THING WITH BONDING CAN YOU IMAGINE THE NEW FATHER COMING HOME AND YOU’RE SAYING YOU CAN CHOOSE BETWEEN 6 POINT 4 WEEKS OFF OR 12 WEEKS; HOW LONG WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE WITH YOUR NEWBORN CHILD. THEREFORE I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE REMEMBER THERE IS NO RATE CAP IN THIS BILL THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY IT WAS TAKEN OUT. SO WITH NO RATE CAP YOU LOOK AT THAT BOTTOM BOX AND YOU GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO THE LEFT. PAYING OUT 994;000 RATHER THAN 780;000 I’M SORRY TO THE RIGHT. I GUESS I’VE BEEN ON THE RIGHT TOO LONG AND I HAVE MIXED UP. FOR ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT AND YOU SEE THAT 0.7 6.7 6 IS DERIVED FROM THE AMOUNT OF THE PREMIUM THAT HAS BEEN COLLECTED COMPARED TO THE ESTIMATED PAYOUTS WITH ASSUMING 12 WEEKS AND 12 WEEKS UPTAKE. IF PEOPLE DECIDE THAT MAYBE THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE WITH THEIR CHILD FOR THE ENTIRE DURATION OF WHAT THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR. THE ASSUMPTION IS ALREADY OFF. NOT ONLY THAT IF YOU LOOK BELOW WHAT I DID WAS I I SAID OK IF WE DO THIS AND IF THAT ASSUMPTION COMES RIGHT. NOT ONLY IN THE SECOND YEAR ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE THE RATES BECAUSE NOW YOU KNOW EUROPE TAKE US 12 WEEKS. BUT YOU’RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND GRAB MORE MONEY FOR THE PREVIOUS A VETERAN BALANCE RIGHT BECAUSE YOU HAD A A DEFICIT THAT FIRST PERIOD. SO I’M NOT SAYING THIS WILL HAPPEN; I KNOW SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY THAT. THIS ISN’T GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT IF IT DOES ARE WE BAIRD TO BE ALMOST CHARGING ONE PERCENT OF PAYROLL RATHER THAN 60 BASIS POINTS BECAUSE THIS COULD HAPPEN PEOPLE COULD DECIDE THAT THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE 12 WEEKS; THEN EITHER 6 OR 8 WEEKS IF THEY’RE GOING TO GET PAID AND THEY CAN STAY HOME WITH THEIR NEW CHILD. IF YOU GO TO THE END OF THE FISCAL NOTE; IT SAYS THERE WILL BE IMPACTS ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT THERE. WELL BECAUSE ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE NOW GOING TO BE MADE TO PAY THIS AS WELL. THE FISCAL NOTE AND GOING TO A LOCAL THAT THERE WASN’T A LOCAL IMPACT NOTE WITH THE US MAY EVEN BE HARD TO CALCULATE. SO NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO TAX EMPLOYERS; MORE AND EMPLOYEES MORE. WE’RE GOING TO TAX ALL OF OUR CITIZENS MORE BECAUSE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THIS UP SOMEWHERE. FELLOW REPRESENTATIVES I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THIS ADDRESSING WHAT WE CAN. BUT I THINK BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT A NEW TAX THAT COULD GET AWAY FROM US AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL REGULATORY TAX THAT’S GOING TO COME BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE POLICY THAT’S IN HERE THAT WE STUDY THIS A LITTLE MORE AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE INPUT SO THAT WE DON’T END UP CAUSING MORE HARM THAN GOOD TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE THINK WE’RE GOING TO HELP THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER.>>THE MEMBER FROM THE FILM ARE REPRESENTED DAVIDS.>>WELL THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER MEMBERS. I AM THE BEARER OF GOOD NEWS.>>THIS BILL IS SO BAD; BUT IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WE ARE PROVIDING FALSE HOPE TO MINNESOTANS INSTEAD OF WORKING ON SOMETHING THAT COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN. SO ARE SIMPLE GOAL; I’VE NEVER SEEN YOU SO WORKED UP. DON’T WORRY IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OKAY JUST CALM DOWN PLEASE. SO MEMBERS. THIS TAX NOW THINK ABOUT THIS JUST A SECOND AND I REPEAT A FEW THINGS REPRESENT VOGEL SAID SO ELOQUENTLY. THIS TAX IS GOING TO BE COLLECTED STARTING JANUARY OF 2022. BUT NO CLAIMS PAID. UNTIL JULY 2023. A PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANY TRIED TO DO THIS THEY WOULD BE IN JAIL. THEY WOULD BE IN JAIL IF GREG DAVIDS SHIFTING SANDS MUTUAL LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY STARTED. I BROUGHT THIS TO THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT.>>MEMBERS THEY WOULD LAUGH ME OUT OF THE PLACES THAT YOU CAN’T DO THAT YOU CAN’T COLLECT PREMIUMS. YOU CAN’T CUT THE TAX WITHOUT BENEFITS. YOU’D BE IN JAIL. EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES WE PAYING TAXES FOR SOMETHING THEY CAN HAVE FOR A TEEN MONTHS; ONE AND A HALF YEARS WE’RE COLLECTING TAX SAYS FOR ONE AND A HALF YEARS BEFORE ANY BENEFITS CAN BE PAID FOR. MEMBERS THIS IS PAID FOR BY THE EMPLOYERS AND THE EMPLOYEES SO WHAT DID WE JUST DO. WE ADDED ANOTHER COST TO EMPLOYERS US AND WE GAVE EVERY WORKING MAN AND WOMAN IN THIS STATE A PAY CAUGHT. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT. THIS BILL IS RAISING TAXES ON EVERY EMPLOYER EVERY POINT THE STATE INCLUDING. PRIVATE EMPLOYERS NONPROFIT CITIES COUNTIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICT WHERE THEY GET THEIR MONEY FROM. WE’RE GOING TO RAISE TAXES ON THAT SIDE TOO. SO WE GIVE THEM A PAY INCREASE WHAT I CAN SO I’M REALLY INTO ACTUARIAL STUDIES I WHEN I READ THEM I JUST THINK THEY’RE PAGE TURNERS THEY ARE SO EXCITING. AND SO I WAS LOOKING FOR THE ACTUARIAL STUDY HERE. THERE IS NONE. I THOUGHT WELL THIS MAY BE GRUBER GARMIN DID IT. BUT THEY DIDN’T EVEN DO IT. THERE’S NO ACTUARIAL STUDY THERE’S THERE’S MY GOOD FRIEND; THE AUTHOR THIS BILL SAID WELL THERE’S ECONOMIC ANALYSIS. WHAT IS THAT. I WANT TO ACTUARIAL STUDY. WE GET OUR INFORMATION WE’RE BASING DECISIONS BASED ON A STUDY FROM THE INSTITUTE FOR WOMEN’S POLICY RESEARCH. THAT GIVES ME A LOT OF WARM FUZZIES. THIS BILL WE CANNOT MODEL ACTUALLY WE CANNOT MATT MODEL PASS THE FIRST YEAR. WE CAN’T MODEL IT PAST THE FIRST YEAR; I’VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ACTUARIAL STUDY SO WE CAN LEASE GO PAST THE FOR THIS YEAR SO WE DON’T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AFTER THE FIRST YEAR INFLATION. INTO ACCOUNT ESTIMATED BENEFITS. OR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. SO LET’S JUST LOOK AT THE STATE OF WASHINGTON FOR A SHORT TIME. THEY’RE BRILLIANT PLAN WENT INTO EFFECT JANUARY FIRST 2020. I HAVE AN ARTICLE BEFORE ME FROM FEBRUARY 25TH; THE 2020. THEY ARE TAKING OK SO YOU GOT THE SHORT WINDOW YOU WANT TO GET MONEY TO THE LADY THAT JUST HAD A BABY OR THE PERSON THAT SECT WITHIN 2 WEEKS RIGHT. THEY’RE NOT SENDING THEIR CHECKS OUT FOR OVER 10 WEEKS. WEEKS. SO MUCH IS SO SO THE STATEMENT THAT THE WASHINGTON PLAN IS WORKING IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. MORE THAN 30;000 PEOPLE APPLIED FOR BENEFITS. 10;000 CHECKS HAVE BEEN SENT. 20;000 PEOPLE HAVE NOT RECEIVE THEIR CHECK THAT’S HOW WONDERFUL. WASHINGTON IS WORKING. A TACOMA NURSE JESSICA JACKSON SAID SHE APPLIED FOR PAID FAMILY BENEFITS ON JANUARY 6 AFTER HAVING HER DAUGHTER. 7 WEEKS LATER JACKSON SAID SHE STILL DOES NOT HAVE OR CHECK. MAYBE HAVE BEEN YOU KNOW. I MEAN THIS REMINDS ME IN SO MANY ASPECTS I MEAN WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG WITH THE STATE. THAT BROUGHT ENSURE AND MEMOIRS. NOW WE WANT TO DO THIS. ONE OF THE MOST DISTRESSING PARTS OF THIS BILL. BACK 10 YEARS AGO OR 9 YEARS GOING EVER WAS ON ENSURE DEBATE I REMEMBER SITTING IN COMMERCE COMMITTEE SAYING OK YOU’RE START A 1.5%. THERE’S A CAP OF 3.5 I SAID LET’S PUT THE CAP AT 1.5 IF THAT’S WHAT IT TAKES THAT’S WHAT YOU GET. ON A ROW WE HAVE TO 3.5 IT WILL NEVER GO TO THAT. WAS THE NEXT YEAR WITH A 2.5. THANK HEAVENS AT LEAST THERE’S A CAP. IN READING THIS BILL. THIS BILL HAS NO HAPPEN. OH MY GOSH WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG WITH THAT. HOW ABOUT THE TOMFOOLERY CHICANERY AND SKULLDUGGERY THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH NO PREMIUM. YEAH PEOPLE THAT VOTE FOR THIS TODAY ARE VOTING FOR UNLIMITED. FROM THE PEOPLE IT’S NOT THOUGH A RECENT THAT’S CAUSING IT’S NOT THE ONE YOU’RE TOOK A 3RD OF ONE PERCENT OF A HALF A 3RD PERCENT. IT’S NOT THAT THEY CAN GO TO UNLIMITED. INFINITY AND BEYOND YES; IT CAN SO MEMBERS. AGAIN DON’T GET TOO UPSET ABOUT A NEW THIS IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT’S A REALLY REALLY HORLEY THOUGHT OUT BILL KNOW ACTUARIAL STUDIES WE’RE GETTING OUR INFORMATION IN FACT DEED SAYS. DEED SAYS WE HAVE NO ESTIMATES OF UPTAKE RATES OR THE WAY OF PRODUCING OUR OWN ESTIMATES FOR CALLED FLYING. LEAVES. WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM DEED ON THIS. BUT BY GOLLY WE GOT STUFF FROM THE INSTITUTE FOR WOMEN’S POLICY RESEARCH SEARCH; WHATEVER THAT IS. SO MEMBERS THIS IS AN EASY NO VAULT AND ITS GOING PAST WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT BUT AS I IN 20 YEARS HERE UNTIL LAST YEAR I NEVER SAID THIS. THANK GOD FOR THE SENATE; THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. THE NUMBER FROM GOODHUE REPRESENTATIVE HALEY. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND I HAVE TO OPPOSE THIS ONE SIZE FITS ALL TOO BILLION DOLLAR MANDATE.>>NOT BECAUSE I DON’T CARE ABOUT MOTHERS OR CARE ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR CARE ABOUT MY EMPLOYERS. BUT IN FACT BECAUSE I DO. I THINK SOMETIMES IT’S EASY TO SAY WE’VE GOT TO SORT OF STICK IT TO THESE BIG BAD CORPORATIONS OR EMPLOYERS THAT AREN’T DOING THE RIGHT THING. BUT LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE EMPLOYERS THAT I KNOW OF IN MINNESOTA EMPLOYERS IN MY DISTRICT. I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH DALE. HE WORKED FOR A GROCERY STORE OUTFIT FOR A LOT OF YEARS AND THEN DECIDED I’VE GOT WHAT IT TAKES I CAN GO OUT ON MY OWN AND HE OPENED HIS OWN MEAT SHOP CALLED MEET HEADS. EVERYBODY IN TOWN LOVES ME HEADS. THAT’S WHERE WE GO TO GET OUR GRADUATION PARTIES CATERED THAT’S WHERE YOU TAKE YOUR DEAR FEW WANT THE VENISON PROCESS YOU GO TO MEET HEADS. WELL A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. DALE MOVED HIS CATERING BUSINESS AND HIS VENICE AND PROCESSING BUSINESS. DEAR PROCESSING TO WISCONSIN. JUST ACROSS THE BRIDGE. AND HE PUT A SIGN ON TO ON MARQUEE AT ME HAD SAT SAID. SHOPS FOR SALE. IS HE CAN’T. MAKE IT ANY MORE. HE’S GOT 15 OR 20 EMPLOYEES. AND THE MANDATES ON A BUSINESS THAT SIZE THAT AGAIN IS VERY WELL VISITED BY FOLKS IN RED WING HE CAN’T MAKE IT ANY MORE THE MEAT SHOPS FOR SALE. HOW ABOUT A COMPANY CALLED. BANKS THERE CAN AFFORD ROSS HAS BEEN A WIFE MARLENE AND BOB STARTED THIS BUSINESS 20 YEARS AGO AND NOW 3 OF THEIR SONS ARE IN IT. FOR ALL OF YOU HUNTER AND FISHERMAN THEY MAKE THE WINDS LOOK I’M OUT THERE MAKE ALL KINDS OF STUFF FOR HUNTING AND FISHING THEY LOVE MINNESOTA. WE HAVE 18 EMPLOYEES NOW AND THEIR SONS ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER THIS BUSINESS. THEY’VE COME TO MY OFFICE MANY TIMES TALKING ABOUT THE HIGH COST OF HEALTH CARE THE HIGH COST OF MANDATES THE HIGH TAXES WE HAVE IN THIS STATE. THEY WILL DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO KEEP THAT FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS IN CANNON FALLS AND PASS IT ON TO THEIR SONS. BUT IT IS TOUGH. AT THIS WOULD JUST ADD MORE TO THEIR BURDEN. LET’S TALK ABOUT GEMINI CANNON FALLS AGAIN FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS.>>50 YEARS IN THE COMMUNITY OVER A 1000 EMPLOYEES FANTASTIC MINNESOTA SUCCESS STORY. THE HIGH SCHOOL ROBOTICS TEAM. GEMINI GIVES 3 FULL-RIDE SCHOLARSHIPS TO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO WANT TO BECOME ENGINEERS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT’S THE FUTURE OF OUR STATE. LAST YEAR GAVE 10’S OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL SO THEY COULD BUY BRAND NEW CTE EQUIPMENT SO KIDS COULD LEARN. ON ROBOTICS AND CNC MACHINES ETCETERA. DON’T TELL ME EMPLOYERS DON’T CARE ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYEES OR DON’T CARE ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY. THESE EMPLOYEES LIVE UP TO WHAT. TERRE HAUTE PERSON YOU SAID WHAT WE VALUE IN MINNESOTA WHAT WE CARE ABOUT. INTEGRITY FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR CUSTOMERS. OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES THROUGH HARD WORK SUPPORTING THEIR SMALL DOWNTOWNS. BUT WE’VE GOT TO KEEP THEM IN THOSE SMALL DOWNTOWNS AND I’M VERY CONCERNED THAT THIS MANDATE. $2 BILLION IN TAXES. IT’S GOING TO TAKE THE NEXT DAY A DEAL AND HIS MEAT HEAD SHOP RIGHT ACROSS THE RIVER. THAT’S WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE 3.3% UNEMPLOYMENT; MINNESOTA WE HAVE THE SECOND HIGHEST WORKFORCE; LABOR PARTICIPATION RATE IN THE ENTIRE US WE HAVE TO 10 JOBS FOR EVERY 7 JOB. SEEKERS. THIS IS NOT A JOB CREATING BILL. THIS IS A JOB KILLING BILL. ARE EMPLOYERS ARE BEING CREATIVE. THEY WANT FLEXIBILITY WITH THEIR BENEFIT STRUCTURE BECAUSE THEY’RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN HIGH QUALITY WORKERS IN THIS STATE. THE LAST THING WE SHOULD BE DOING. IS PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON THAT THE LAST THING. I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT BECAUSE YOU’RE DAVID MENTIONED THESE PROGRAMS IN WASHINGTON; SO THIS WAS IN MY E-MAIL BOX TODAY FROM RED WING SHOE. ANOTHER EMPLOYER THAT I TALK ABOUT OFF AND I’M VERY PROUD OF RED WING SHOES AND IT’S A BRAND THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE PROUD OF IN MINNESOTA. SO TODAY I GET THIS JUST A HEADS UP BARB FOOD FOR THOUGHT AS YOU CONTINUE TO FIGHT ON THIS ONE. BOTH WASHINGTON AND MASSACHUSETTS HAVE HAD A DELAY DUE TO THEIR SITES NOT BEING READY FOR PAYMENT. SO RED WING SO THAT THE EMPLOYEES ALL OVER THE WORLD RIGHT SO THEY’RE TRYING TO PROCESSES FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES IN WASHINGTON AND MASSACHUSETTS. WE OBVIOUSLY OUT SOME PREMIUM AND AND REPORTING. BUT WHEN WE WENT TO UPLOAD THE REPORTS AND SEND PAYMENTS OUT THE SITES WERE NOT READY. GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE RUNNING AND OUR BUILDING TECHNOLOGY TO SUPPORT THESE TYPES OF BENEFITS IF WE MUST GO AHEAD 3RD PARTY. PROVIDERS HAVE BETTER TEMPLATES. $2 BILLION IN TAXES TO PLACE DON’T SHUT DOWN MY MAIN STREET BUSINESSES DON’T CLOSE THE BUSINESSES THAT SUPPORT. WORLD MINNESOTA AND IN FACT SUPPORT ALL OF MINNESOTA. WE CAN’T VOTE ON THIS BILL TONIGHT. WE MUST VOTE NO. THANK YOU.>>THE MEMBER FROM HENNEPIN REPRESENTATIVE LONG.>>I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM SPEAKER I’D LIKE TO SHARE 2 STORIES TODAY ABOUT WHY THIS BILL IS ON HORTON AND I’M GLAD WE’RE TALKING ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES BECAUSE I HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER FROM MY DISTRICT WHO IS HERE IN THE GALLERY ACERA PEOPLE BERG AND SHE OWNS A BIG RAT WHICH IS AN AMAZING BUSINESS AND YOU SHOULD ALL CHECK IT OUT THEY SO SENATORS OILS YOU CAN SAMPLE THEM THERE IT’S DELICIOUS YOU SHOULD ALL GO TO AN AMAZING BUSINESS. SARAH HAS 5 EMPLOYEES AT HER IT’S A SMALL BUSINESS AND SHE HAD AN SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHO BROKE BOTH HER ARMS AND NEEDED TO GO OUT ON MEDICAL LEAVE. SO IN A SMALL BUSINESS; YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE YOUR FAMILY. RIGHT YOU WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THEM YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE GOING TO BE OK AND TOUGH TIMES IN THEIR LIVES LIKE THIS. SHE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HER EMPLOYEE COULD HAVE HER FULL PAY COULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO STAY OUT COME BACK TO WORK. SHE WAS AN AMAZING EMPLOYEE ONE OF HER TOP SALES PEOPLE AND SO SHE GAVE HER THAT OPTION SHE GAVE HER THE ABILITY TO STAY OUT UH HUH WITH FULL PAY WHILE SHE WAS RECOVERING. BUT BECAUSE SHE IS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. THAT CAME OUT OF HER FAMILY’S BUDGET. THAT CAME OUT OF HER AND HER HUSBAND AND HER CHIP CHILDREN’S. FAMILY BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO HELP PAY FOR HER EMPLOYEE AND AS A RESULT. THEY HAD TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES. THEY FELL BEHIND ON THEIR HOME MORTGAGE A FELL BEHIND ON THEIR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS LOAN. IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO COVER FOR THIS ONE EMPLOYEE. AND AS A RESULT SARAH HAS BECOME A PASSIONATE ADVOCATE FOR BILLS LIKE THIS FOR PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE. BECAUSE BIG BUSINESSES DON’T HAVE TO FACE THOSE CHOICES; BIG BUSINESSES DON’T HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY’RE GOING TO EAT INTO THEIR PERSONAL BUDGET OF THE BUSINESS OWNER TO BE ABLE TO CARE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES THEY ALL OFFER THIS RIGHT. AND SO EMPLOYEES WHO WORK FOR BIG BUSINESSES GET THESE BENEFITS EMPLOYEES WHO WORK FOR SMALL BUSINESSES DOLE; SMALL BUSINESSES ARE AT A CAN BETTER TO DISADVANTAGE IN OUR STATE BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT ABLE TO OFFER THE SAME BENEFITS AS LARGE BUSINESSES AND SARAHS RUN THE NUMBERS FOR HER BUSINESS AND SHE SAID IT WILL COST ABOUT $111 A MONTH TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE FOR EMPLOYEES. AND THAT’S NOT A SMALL EXPENSE FOR A BUSINESS LIKE HERS. BUT IT IS ONE THAT SHE FEELS IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN HER EMPLOYEES TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT IF THEY GET INJURED IF HEAVEN FORBID ANOTHER ONE HAS A SERIOUS INJURY LIKE THIS THAT THEY CAN COME BACK TO WORK. THE SECOND STORY IS MY STORY. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LETTER THAT EVERYBODY WAS SAYS IN ONE OF THE SENTENCES THAT UH THIS BILL WOULD ALLOW EMPLOYEES TO BE AWAY FROM THEIR JOB FOR UP TO 24 WEEKS EACH YEAR. 24 WEEKS EACH YEAR. THAT SOUNDS INCREDIBLY SCARY RIGHT. BUT IT IS UTTERLY OFFENSIVE AND WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS AND WHAT THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE THAT WE’RE MAKING ABOUT MINNESOTANS SO TO BE ABLE TO BE AWAY FROM YOUR JOB EACH YEAR YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SITUATION LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO ME A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE YOU HAVE TO QUALIFYING EVENTS HAPPENED IN THE EXACT SAME YEAR. SO FOR ME THAT WAS THE BIRTH OF MY FIRST SON AND IT WAS THE DEATH. MY FATHER-IN-LAW WHO WAS GOING THROUGH HOSPICE IN OUR HOME. WHEN I WAS PRIVILEGED TO WORK FOR AN EMPLOYER WHO GAVE ME PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE. SO THAT I COULD TAKE TIME BOTH TO CARE FOR MY NEW SON WHEN HE WAS BORN AND ONE MONTH LATER TO TAKE CARE MY FATHER-IN-LAW WHEN HE WAS GOING THROUGH HOSPICE IN OUR HOME. IT WAS AN AMAZING HONOR AND PRIVILEGE THAT MY FATHER-IN-LAW GOT TO MEET OUR SON. AND I DIDN’T ABUSE THE PRIVILEGE OF TAKING 24 WEEKS OF LEAVE. I TOOK 4 WEEKS TO CARE FOR MY SON I TOOK ONE WEEK TO CARE FOR MY FATHER-IN-LAW AND GUESS WHAT THAT’S WHAT MOST MINNESOTANS DO WITH THE CURRENT BENEFITS THEY HAVE THEY DON’T GO THE FULL TIME MINNESOTANS WANT TO WORK THEY WANT TO GET BACK TO WORK AND WHEN YOU HAVE A BILL LIKE THIS THAT ONLY ACTUALLY PROVIDES PART OF YOUR SALARY IS REPLACEMENT MOST MINNESOTANS CAN AFFORD TO GO FOR THE ENTIRE TIME. THEY’RE GOING TO GET BACK TO WORK. SO IT IS NOT THERE’S NOT GOING TO BE SITUATIONS HARDLY EVER WHERE SOMEBODY TAKES 24 WEEKS. AND WHEN THOSE SITUATIONS ARISE THOSE ARE SITUATIONS LIKE MINE; THOSE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE TO QUALIFYING EVENTS IN THE SAME YEAR. I ONLY HAVE 2 KIDS I DON’T THINK WE’RE GOING TO ANOTHER. MY WIFE ONLY HAS 2 PARENTS. THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN IT’S NOT THIS WAS THE ONE YEAR WHERE IT MATTERED TO MY FAMILY THAT I WAS ABLE TO TAKE PAID FAMILY LEAVE TWICE. AND MINNESOTANS DESERVE THE OP TUNE IN TO HAVE THAT THIS IS NOT ABUSE IT IS OFFENSIVE TO CHARACTERIZE MINNESOTANS IN THIS WAY EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE BENEFITS THAT I HAD FOR MY FAMILY; THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER.>>THE MEMBER FROM CANIO HIGH REPRESENTATIVE BAKER.>>AND THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR OR MADAM SPEAKER AND THERE FOR SOME UH MAYBE I CAN KIND OF KEEP DETAILING THE FROM REPRESENTATIVE LONG AND ALSO OFFENDED THAT MEANS A SMALL EMPLOYER HAVE TO BE TOLD HOW TO TAKE CARE OF MY EMPLOYEES.>>SO THIS IS JUST AS OFFENSIVE TO OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AROUND ALL OF MINNESOTA. THAT THE STATE OF MINNESOTA KNOWS BEST HOW TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT THIS LAST JANUARY I ACTUALLY SOLD PART OF OUR HOSPITALITY COMPANY. WE SOLD OUR RESTROOM AND AND I WILL TELL YOU HONESTLY I WAS REALLY STRUGGLING AT THE END BECAUSE I WASN’T THERE ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE MY EMPLOYEES WERE WELL TAKEN CARE OF AND I JUST KNEW THAT I I REALLY ENJOYED OUR WORK DOWN HERE BUT THE RULES. THE LABOR MARKET; THE COSTS OF RUNNING A BUSINESS AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER FACTORS JUST HAD ME AT MY AND I COULDN’T DO IT ANY LONGER. I’M REALLY REALLY PROUD OF WHAT MY WIFE AND I DID IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY AND WE STILL HAVE A HOTEL WAS OVER HOSPITALITY BUSINESS. BUT I KNEW I WAS LOSING THE BATTLE BECAUSE WHEN I SIT HERE EVERY WEEK AS A SMALL EMPLOYER AND I HEAR THAT THE SLAP IN THE FACE MEMBERS IN THIS BODY THAT THINK AS AN EMPLOYER. WE ARE BAD. WE DON’T KNOW ENOUGH HOW TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. WE ARE SMART ENOUGH TO COME UP WITH THEIR OWN PLANS AND RECRUITING IDEAS AND OUR PAY SCALES AND OUR PTA PTO TIME AND OUR GIFTS SO WE GIVE OUR LOANS THAT WE GIVE 2 EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY NEED TO BUY SOME NEW TIRES FOR THEIR CAR. I LAST YEAR CO-SIGNED A LOAN FOR A CAR AUTOMOBILE TO AN EMPLOYEE IN GREAT COVER E BECAUSE YOU’VE BEEN DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB. WITH MY MY WITH MY WORK IN THE KITCHEN; I’M SO PROUD OF HIM AND NOW YOU WERE FORCING THINGS ON US BECAUSE WE’RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH WE’RE NOT SMART ENOUGH BECAUSE WE DON’T KNOW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. THIS $2 BILLION TAX ISRAEL. REPRESENT OF LAW MAKES A COMMENT THAT MOST EMPLOYEES WON’T USE IT ALL WELL HE WAS ABLE TO UTILIZE IT FROM HIS EMPLOYER BECAUSE THEY’RE ALREADY DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY BUT IT’S THE EMPLOYERS CHOICE BECAUSE THEY VALUE REPRESENTATIVE LONG AND THE WORK THAT HE DOES AT THE FIRM. WHY ARE WE TELLING US WHY ARE WE TELLING EMPLOYERS AROUND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA THAT’S NOT GOOD ENOUGH AND YOU’RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH. I HEAR THE SMALL RURAL TOWN MARKETS I LIVE JUST OUTSIDE OF WILMER. WE’VE GOT NEW LONDON AND SPICER AT WATER FOR MANY OF THOSE LITTLE COMMUNITIES DON’T HAVE THAT LAST GROCERY STORE THAT SOME COMMUNITIES ARE JUST HANGING ON TO BUY A THREAT. THERE’S A LITTLE HARDWARE STORE IN SPICER I AM SO GRATEFUL. THEY ARE THERE BUT I DON’T THINK THAT THEY CAN DO A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU IN THE SUMMERTIME THEY DO PRETTY WELL BECAUSE PEOPLE COME OUT AND ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL BEACHES OF GREEN LAKE. BUT BOY IS IT A QUIET 8 MONTHS WHEN THEY’RE NOT AROUND ANYMORE IN THIS SMALL LITTLE TOWN OF 2500 PEOPLE. THESE KIND OF TAXES IN THESE KIND OF EMPLOYER GETS ARE ARE JUST GETTING TO THE END OF WHAT WE CAN DO. OUR STATE DOESN’T RECOGNIZE TIPS AS WAGES. THAT IS A REAL SHAME WHEN YOU’RE IN THE IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY. WE’VE GOT TO START RECOGNIZING. THOSE AS INCOME UP THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE PAYING A LOT OF TAXES. PAYROLL TAXES ON THAT INCOME THAT WE’RE NOT RECOGNIZING HERE. AND AGAIN TO START THINKING AGAIN OF A PROGRAM WITH 400 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES TO DO THIS PROGRAM THAT WILL WILL LOOK ANYTHING LIKE WHAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR MIGHT DO IS INSANITY. WE IN LARS OF LOOKING AT US RIGHT IN THE FACE AND WE’RE SCENIC COMING AT US AND THIS KIND OF LEGISLATION MEMBERS IS REALLY MISGUIDED. I’M OFFENDED AS A SMALL BUSINESS GUY I THINK I KNOW WHAT I’M DOING AND IF I DIDN’T OUR EMPLOYEES WOULD LEAVE ME IN A MINUTE BECAUSE THERE’S A BUNCH OF OTHER FOLKS DOING A LOT BETTER THAN I AM SO PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS KIND OF LEGISLATION WE ARE READY. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT TELL EMPLOYERS HOW TO PAY THEIR PEOPLE. WELL WE DO NOT BELONG IN THIS BUSINESS. THANK YOU. THE MEMBER FROM FREE BORN REPRESENTATIVE BENNETT.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND MEMBERS PLEASE BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A MINUTE WHILE I READ A VERY IMPORTANT LIST. CHRISTIANSEN PLUMBING AND HEATING. THOMPSON ELECTRIC. YOU AND BROTHERS. RALLIES HARDWARE. JIM AND DUDE’S PLUMBING AND HEATING. STEAD I’M JEWELERS. CLOTHING CARE CENTER. MARKETING PLUS. SOUTHCENTRAL THAT. TRAILS TRAVEL CENTER. HANSEN TIRE. ERROL PRINTING. GRANITE CREEK MINNESOTA. THE CHILDREN’S CENTER. TAKE YOUR CITY SPORTS. MORRIS FURNITURE. PLYMOUTH SHOE STORE. SHIPS PRO POWER WASH. ADVANCE FAMILY DENTAL. THESE ARE SOME OF THE MANY SMALL BUSINESSES IN ALBERT LEA MY COMMUNITY. AND THERE’S MANY MANY MORE THAT I WAS UNABLE TO LIST. THEY ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF MY LOCAL COMMUNITY. THE OWNERS OF EVERY ONE OF THESE BUSINESSES BECAUSE I COME FROM A SMALL TOWN AND WE KNOW EACH OTHER; I KNOW MANY OF THE EMPLOYEES. I’VE SPOKEN TO THE OWNERS OF THESE BUSINESSES AND MANY OTHERS. AND THEY HAVE TOLD ME THAT THE BURDENSOME ONE SIZE FITS ALL ALL MANDATES. THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS BILL WILL DESTROY THEIR BUSINESSES. IT WILL DESTROY THE LIFE BLOOD OF MY LOCAL COMMUNITY IT WILL JUST AND THE JOB PROVIDERS OF MY LOCAL COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE. MEMBERS THIS CONCERNS ME GREATLY. AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO EMPLOYEES THAT NEED TO FAMILY LEAVE AND NEED THESE WEEK SAAF I THINK THAT’S IMPORTANT BUT WE SHOULD TRUST OUR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUT ALREADY PROVIDING THESE THINGS AND WORKING TOGETHER WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES IS TO COME UP WITH INNOVATIVE IDEAS THAT WORK BOTH FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THE EMPLOYER. THAT’S WHAT WE’RE ALL ABOUT HERE NOT UNIVERSAL ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL MANDATES. UNIVERSAL ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL NEVER WORKS IN MY CLASS SIR; I’M NEVER WORKED IN MY SCHOOL. IT DOESN’T WORK FOR BUSINESSES AND IT DOESN’T WORK FOR OUR STATE. LET’S HAVE COMMON SENSE HERE. THIS ISN’T THE HALFWAY THIS BILL IS NOT THE PATHWAY TO BETTER EMPLOYMENT FOR MINNESOTA AT ITS THE PATHWAY TO THE DEATH OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES IN MINNESOTA. THANK YOU. THE MEMBER FROM RICE REPRESENTATIVE LIPPERT.>>THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER MEMBERS. ALL MINNESOTANS DESERVE THE TIME THEY NEED TO CARE FOR THEIR LOVED ONES. AND THAT’S NOT FAIR. IT ALSO PUTS MANY MINNESOTANS IN DANGEROUS SITUATIONS. NELSON DOESN’T REFLECT THE BEST OF WHO WE ARE AS A STATE AS A STATE WE CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER. IN MY WORK AS A PASTOR I SEE THAT I SEE I SEE IN COMMUNITIES. RALLY AROUND FAMILIES IN CRISIS AND IT’S BEAUTIFUL. I’VE ALSO SEEN. THE DANGEROUS SITUATIONS OF FAMILIES ARE IN AS THEY’RE PUSHED TO THE BRINK. WHEN THEY DON’T HAVE THE TIME THEY NEED. TO CARE FOR THEIR LOVED ONES WERE SICK AND THEY’RE TRYING TO HOLD EVERYTHING TOGETHER INCLUDING KEEPING THEIR JOB. SO HERE’S ONE STORY FROM THE CONGREGATION I SERVED IN NORTHFIELD. PARENTS LEARNED THAT THEIR TEENAGE SON HAS CANCER. TURNS YOUR LIFE UPSIDE DOWN IN A SERIOUS. SO IMMEDIATELY THEY’RE GETTING THEIR SON TO CHEMOTHERAPY TREATMENT AND THEIR LIFE NOW. IS GETTING THEIR SON TO AND FROM TREATMENT. TRYING TO KEEP LIFE AS NORMAL AS IT CAN POSSIBLY BE FOR THEIR OTHER CHILDREN. AND THEN FIGURING OUT WHICH ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO STAY HOME WITH THEIR SON IN BETWEEN TREATMENTS EVERY DAY BECAUSE HE’S SICK. HE NEEDS CARE. BUT NEITHER OF THEM HAS PAID TIME OFF. CAN GET DAYS OFF; BUT THEY’RE NOT PAIN. HE CAN QUALIFY FOR FMLA FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE ACT BUT AS THEIR LAST RESORT BECAUSE THEY NEED HIS WAGES. DON’T WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE AND THE SAME TIME THE MOM WHO’S A NURSE. WHO IS RESEARCHING THIS PARTICULAR CANCER TALKING WITH HER DOCTOR WITH THE SUNS DOCTOR KNOWS EVERYTHING THAT’S GOING ON WITH THEIR SON ALL THE CARE HE NEEDS. SHE’S RECENTLY CHANGE JOBS. SO SHE DOESN’T QUALIFY FOR FMLA AT ALL AND SHE HAS AN ACCRUED TIME. SO SHE DOESN’T HAVE TIME OFF. BUT THERE ARE DAYS WHEN SHE HAS TO TAKE TIME BECAUSE IT’S NEEDED AT HOME AND SO SHE’S LITERALLY WORRIED ABOUT LOSING HER JOB. WHEN OUR SON HAS CANCER. IT’S ENOUGH FOR ANY PARENTS TO BE FIGHTING CANCER WITH THEIR SON. THEY DON’T NEED TO BE FIGHTING TO KEEP A JOB AT THE SAME TIME. THEY DON’T NEED TO BE FIGHTING FOR THEIR ECONOMIC SECURITY. RELIGIOUS LEADERS SEE THESE SORTS OF SITUATIONS ALL THE TIME. AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN RURAL COMMUNITIES. EVEN MORE PERHAPS. FOR SCHOOL RELEASED A STUDY THAT SOME REFERENCED A COUPLE TIMES TODAY. CAREGIVING NEEDS IN RURAL COMMUNITIES. ARE EVEN GREATER THAN IN CITIES BECAUSE THERE’S A LACK OF ACCESS TO ELDER CARE CHILD CARE AND TAKES LONGER TO GET TO THE DOCTOR AND BACK TO THE HOSPITAL MAC THERE ARE MORE AND MORE SMALL EMPLOYERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO OFFER PAID FAMILY LEAVE BENEFITS TO THEIR EMPLOYEES BUT THEY CAN’T AFFORD IT LIKE THE LARGER CORPORATIONS IN THE CITY’S DO. AND SO THESE ARE THE THINGS WE SEE. WHERE ONE HAS EARLY ONSET DEMENTIA. AND THE OTHERS CARING FOR HER HUSBAND. AND ORGANIZING THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. TO KEEP UNSAFE. HAS TO KEEP HER JOB AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THEY NEED THAT MONEY AND THE WEIGHT OF IT ALL IS SO HEAVY THAT SHE’S DEPRESSED BECAUSE SHE FEELS TRAPPED AND THEN WE ARE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF BOTH OF THEM. THESE ARE THE THINGS WE SEE WE SEE ADULT CHILDREN IN THE SANDWICH GENERATION CARING FOR AGING PARENTS AND CARING FOR THEIR CHILDREN. AND THEN THERE’S A CRISIS THAT HAPPENS AND IT’S COMING AT THEM FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS AND THEY NEED TO KEEP THEIR JOBS AND THEY DON’T KNOW WHERE TO TURN. YOUNG PARENTS. WITH TODDLERS AND NEWBORN AND AND THERE’S A HEALTH CRISIS AND THEY DON’T HAVE TIME. PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE. HONORS THE FACT THAT WE’RE HUMAN BEINGS. WE’RE WIRED FOR RELATIONSHIP AND CONNECTION. WE NEED TO BE THERE WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS WHEN THEY NEED US MOST WE FEEL THAT IN OUR BONES. WE NEED TO PASS THIS BILL. FOR THE PEOPLE I KNOW. FOR THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW IN YOUR DISTRICT. FOR FAMILIES ALL ACROSS THE STATE. I URGE A GREEN VOTE. THE MEMBER FROM RIGHT REPRESENTATIVE LOOSE ARROW. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER I AM SUPER EXCITED. NOT FOR THIS BILL. BUT BECAUSE WE’RE GETTING INTO SPRING HERE VERY SHORTLY; I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO A NICE WARM. MINNESOTA SPRING AND SUMMER. I HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF CONCERNS PERTAINING TO THIS BILL AND I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.>>THAT I’M HOPING THE BILL AUTHOR WILL YIELD FOR A SERIES OF QUESTIONS. SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE THE CERRO THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER. MADAM SPEAKER; THE AND REPRESENT HELPERS IN THE FIRST QUESTION IS BUT ACCORDING TO SECTION 6 OF THE BILL. AUTHORIZATION FOR THE NEW PROGRAM BEGINS JULY FIRST 2020. SUCH JUST A FEW MONTHS FROM NOW. AND THEN ACCORDING TO SECTION 18 OF THE BILL PREMIUM COLLECTION AS WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL MEMBERS HERE. WE’LL BEGIN. JANUARY FIRST 2022. SO FROM JULY FIRST 2020 TO JANUARY FIRST 2022 HIS 18 MONTHS. WE’RE GOING TO GO FROM NO SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. TO A BRAND-NEW TECHNOLOGY SYSTEM BRAND NEW. IF YOUR BRAND NEW EMPLOYEES. IN 18 MONTHS AT LEAST TO BEGIN COLLECTION BECAUSE THAT MONEY HAS TO BE TRACKED AND IT HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE. ACCORDING TO SECTION 8 OF THE BILL THE NEW PRAGUE THE NEW PROGRAM WILL BEGIN PROCESSING APPLICATIONS JULY FIRST 2023. SO THAT’S 18 MONTHS. AFTER THE COLLECTION OF PREMIUM AND THEN 36 MONTHS FROM JULY 1ST OF THIS YEAR. SO 36 MONTHS FROM JULY 1ST OF THIS YEAR IS WHEN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM MUST BE UP AND RUNNING LIFE. SO MADAM SPEAKER IN MEMBERS. WHEN IT COMES TO TECH KNOWLEDGE E DEVELOPMENT; NOT JUST INFRASTRUCTURE YOUR SERVERS ROUTERS SWITCHES THINGS LIKE THAT; BUT THIS IS. IN ADDITION TO THE HARDWARE INFRASTRUCTURE; THIS IS SOFTWARE THAT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED. AND IT HAS TO BE 100% GO LIVE IN 36 MONTHS FROM. THE DATE THAT IT’S ENACTED WHICH IS JULY FIRST 2020. SO IN ORDER FOR IT TO GO LIVE IN 36 MONTHS. THERE HAS TO BE. AND AT MINIMUM FOR A SYSTEM THIS COMPLEX AND THE ABSOLUTE BARE BONES MINIMUM. 12 MONTHS OF TESTING. USER ACCEPTANCE TESTING. IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE USER ACCEPTANCE TESTING THERE MUST BE A BETA VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE THAT’S UP AND RUNNING. NOW WE’RE DOWN TO 2 YEARS SO 24 MONTHS. THE ENTIRE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE CREATED. AND WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN THIS STATE UNFORTUNATELY OF SPENDING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WHEN I SAY SPENDING WHAT I MEAN IS SQUANDERING TRYING TO DEVELOP TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS THAT DON’T WORK. ONE EXAMPLE; OBVIOUSLY THE MOST RECENT MEMOIRS. THAT WAS A DECADE IN THE MAKING A DECADE THEY STILL CAN GET IT RIGHT AND THAT SYSTEM MEMBERS IS LESS COMPLEX THAN THE SYSTEM BEING PROPOSED IN THIS BILL. SO MY MY FIRST OF A SERIES OF QUESTIONS; MADAM SPEAKER TO REPRESENT HOW PERSON IS WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT THE BETA VERSION WE’LL BE READY FOR USER ACCEPTANCE TESTING REPRESENTATIVE HALVERSON.>>MADAM SPEAKER; THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND REPRESENTATIVE LISTS I I’M RICK ALL THAT HAD CONVERSATIONS THE ON THE FLOOR LAST YEAR AND I RECALL THAT WE HAD DETAILED CONVERSATIONS AMONG MEMBERS IN COMMITTEE AS WELL THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE’VE HAD DEDE THE THE THE GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT’S GOING TO BE HELPING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER ALONG WITH DOLLY AND A B AND OTHERS ARE THAT THE THEIR PRAGUE PREDICTIONS FOR WHAT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE ARE ACTUALLY GETTING STRONGER AND MORE PREDICTABLE BECAUSE THERE IS MORE UM THE TECHNOLOGY THAT’S AVAILABLE AND IN USE THAT WE CAN USE IN WHERE WE’RE BUILDING THIS IN IN TANDEM WITH IN IT WITH THE EU I WITH UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE AND WE HAVE 80 YEARS OF HISTORY IN CREATING A BENEFITS PROGRAM AND PAYING OUT THAT BENEFITS PROGRAM.>>REPRESENTATIVE LOU SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER; I DON’T KNOW IF I SHOULD LAUGH OR CRY RIGHT NOW. REPRESENT HIM AS A MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTED COVERS AND JUST RIGHT UP. LAST YEAR’S CONVERSATIONS. LET ME REMIND THE BODY HOW LAST YEAR’S CONVERSATIONS THAT I WAS ASKING ENDED. I WAS ASKING A SERIES OF QUESTIONS AND ONE AFTER THE OTHER COULD BE ANSWERED THEY’RE THAT EVENTUALLY. THE MAJORITY LEADER. MADE A FRIVOLOUS POINT OF ORDER IN ORDER TO SHUT ME UP. AND THEN THAT WERE WITH THEN YOU HAD THE LEADERS OF THE CAUCUS GO INTO THE BACK ROOM TALK ABOUT A HALF HOUR AND WE CAME BACK IN THE ON THE FLOOR IT ENDED BECAUSE THE MAJORITY LEADER IN THE MAJORITY PARTY COULD NOT STAND THE QUESTIONS THEY THREW IN THE WHITEHALL BECAUSE THEY REALIZE THIS IS AN ABYSMAL BILL. AND SO NO WE DIDN’T GET INTO ANY OF THIS MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENT A COVER SENT IT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND YOU JUST ANSWER IT NOW. 80 YEARS OF HISTORY. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE’RE SPEAKING ABOUT HERE. THIS IS THE NEW TECHNOLOGY SYSTEM MEMOIRS WAS ONLY AS RECENT AS 2 YEARS AGO LAST YEAR ACTUALLY SO HOW MUCH TECHNOLOGY; NEW TECHNOLOGY HAS HAPPENED SINCE MEMOIRS COMPLETE FAILURE; AND WHAT YOU’RE PROPOSING TO BEGIN BUILDING IN JULY 1ST OF THIS YEAR. REBEL THE TORY NEW TECHNOLOGY PIXIE DUST. THAT’S GOING TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN MEMBERS. MADAME SPEAKER MEMBERS. PHYSICALLY HIM POSSIBLE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. TO CREATE A BRAND NEW SYSTEM TO WRITE BRAND NEW SOFTWARE. IN APPROXIMATELY A YEAR FROM NOW IN ORDER TO BEGIN WELL 18 MONTHS AT A MINIMUM TO BEGIN COLLECTION. WHICH MEANS PRIOR TO 18 MONTHS YOU NEED TO HAVE A TESTING IN THERE IT IS PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO DO WHAT THIS BILL IS SEEKING TO DO. WE THIS BILL IS GOING TO RECREATE THE PROBLEMS. MADAM SPEAKER THAT WE HAD WITH MEN LARS MINNESOTANS ARE FURIOUS. AT THE OVER A MILLION WASTED ON THAT SYSTEM. THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO FROM A TECHNOLOGY PERSPECTIVE. BENNETT SPEAKER WOULD REPRESENT A TELEVISION DEAL FOR THE QUESTION SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE TO SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTED HELGERSON. SECTION 7. SUBDIVISION 6 READS AN INDIVIDUAL WHOSE MEDICAL RECORDS ARE NECESSARY TO DETERMINE ELIGIBILITY FOR BENEFITS UNDER THIS CHAPTER MUST SIGN AND 80 LEGALLY EFFECTIVE WAIVER AUTHORIZING THE RELEASE OF MEDICAL OR OTHER RECORDS TO THE DEPARTMENT. OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY. MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENT OF HALLIBURTON. MEDICAL DATA BE TRANSMITTED TO DOLLY. WHAT IS THE INTERFACE. REPRESENTATIVE PAUL PERCENT. THANK YOU; MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTATIVE LISTS OR.>>PROCESS IS THE SAME AS IT IS FOR UNPAID LEAVE CURRENTLY. REPRESENTATIVE DO SO.>>WHAT WOULD BE AYE CHAIR YIELD FROM THE QUESTION. SHE WILLIAM THE REPRESENTATIVE WHO SARAH THANK YOU AS WE CAN REPRESENT HELP US AND COULD YOU PLEASE AND LIGHTNING WITH THE CURRENT PROCESSES.>>REPRESENTATIVE PAUL PERCENT AND THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND REPRESENTATIVE LET’S ERR IN AND HIM PLOY OF THAT THEY HELPED US WRITE THIS LANGUAGE SO THAT IT’S THE SAME IN FACT EMPLOYERS WHEN WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT HOW TO CREATE THIS PROGRAM; ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID HIS MODEL IT OFF AS MUCH AS CURRENTLY EXISTS SO THE DEFINITIONS THAT ARE IN HERE CURRENTLY EXIST IN STATE LAW THE PROCESS IS FOR.>>CHANGE EXCHANGING INFORMATION. CURRENTLY UGLY EXIST IN IN FEDERAL AND STATE LAW BECAUSE WE’VE HAD UNPAID LEAVE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE FOR SO LONG THE SYSTEMS ARE IN PLACE BECAUSE THE PROCESS IS AT THE SAME. REPRESENTATIVE TO SARAH WITH THE BILL AFTER YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SHE WILLIAM REPRESENTATIVE LOU SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND REPRESENT COVERED SON; THE CURRENT PROCESS EASE FOR UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE IS THAT INVOLVE MEDICAL RECORDS BEING UPLOADED. REPRESENTATIVE PAUL MADAM A SPEAKER OR REPRESENTATIVE LOU THERE IS EXCHANGE OF A DATE WHEN IT COMES TO YOU I; BUT IT’S ALSO TRUE FOR OF FEDERAL AND STATE PAID FAMILY LEAVE ALL OF THE PROGRAMS HAVE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HAS A SPECIFIC HALL EVENT IN ORDER TO UTILIZE THE PROGRAMS. SO IT’S CONSISTENT. REPRESENTATIVE LOOSE ARROW WITH THE BILL I FROM THE QUESTION. REPRESENTATIVE TO SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTED CULVERTS AND.>>WILL THIS NEW SYSTEM REQUIRE ON THE TRAILS.>>REPRESENTATIVE PAUL MERSON MADAM SPEAKER REPRESENTATIVE THE CENTER OF THE SYSTEM WILL JUST PAID FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 20 YEARS WHEN IT COMES TO CREATING A QUALIFYING MEDICAL EVENT. REPRESENTATIVE TO SARAH WITH A BILL OUT TO YOU FROM THE QUESTION SHE WILL YIELD REPRESENTATIVE LOU SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER DOES THE CURRENT SYSTEM. HE WAS OUT OF TRAILS. REPRESENTATIVE PAUL MERSON. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER AND UM I THINK THAT IT’S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE. GONE THROUGH 10 COMMITTEES ON THIS AND THAT WE HAVE ENGAGED THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF A. EMPLOYMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT; THE MINNESOTA EMPLOYMENT OF EMPLOYEE RELATIONS OR EXCUSE ME OF LABOR AND THIS BILL. TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL EMPLOYERS AND ALL EMPLOYEES. ARE FUNCTIONING UNDER THE SAME SYSTEM THAT THEY’RE CURRENTLY FUNCTIONING ON NOTHING IS CHANGING FROM THE WAY WE EXCHANGED A THAT IN UNPAID FAMILY LEAVE TO PAID FAMILY LEAVE.>>REPRESENTATIVE LOU SARAH. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER; LET ME REMIND MEMBERS. HOW THE COMMITTEE PROCESS WORKED LAST YEAR. THE COMMITTEE TASKED WITH REVIEWING AND ENSURING DATA PROTECTION IS THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. AND FOR THOSE MEMBERS THAT SIT ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WILL REMEMBER THIS. THOSE WHO WERE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE FIRST TIME INFORMATION. I HAD A SERIES OF CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS FOR THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE I KNOW THAT THIS BODY IS SHOCKED. NOW FOR THE COMMITTEE THIS QUESTIONS WERE FOR THE BILL AUTHOR IN JUDICIARY GUESS WHAT HAPPENED. AFTER QUESTION 3.>>JUST LIKE THE MAJORITY LEADER DID ON THE HOUSE FLOOR I WAS CUT OFF. I CAN ONLY ASK 3 QUESTIONS AND YOU DON’T MY COMMENTS THAT A SPEAKER WAS AT THE END OF THAT COMMITTEE HEARING ON HOUSE FILE 5 I SAID I GUESS I HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE MISTER CHAIR BUT TO SAVE THE BALANCE OF MY QUESTIONS FOR THE HOUSE FLOOR. SO I GOT TO THE HOUSE FLOOR THAT WAS CUT OFF AGAIN. SO MADAM SPEAKER AS WE’VE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES NOW THIS BILL HAS BEEN THROUGH 10 COMMITTEES THE COMMITTEES HAVE BEEN A CHARADE. A CHARADE. MEMBERS NOT BEING ABLE TO ASK THE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. SO YOU WENT THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF GOING THROUGH COMMITTEE. BUT THERE WAS NO INTEREST IN

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